agfachrome 64

dwainthomas · Jan 9, 2009

where can I get this film developed? Took it to a Lab and they say they can't process it. Apparently it takes some different type of chemical other than E-6 and they can't cross process it either.

PhotoJim · Jan 9, 2009

Rocky Mountain Labs (US)
Film Rescue International (Canada)

Those are the only two I know of.

Fredrik Sandstrom · Jan 9, 2009

Is this an AP-41 process film, like Agfa CT18? If so, http://www.processc22.co.uk/ in the UK can also process it.

If you go with Rocky Mountain, call them first and ask when they last ran a batch of this process, and when they expect to run one again. You might have to wait years.

railwayman3 · Jan 9, 2009

I'm sure it's the same process as CT-18, well before Agfa converted to E6 equivalent, and as such totally incompatable with present chemicals.

I believe it was discontinued around the early 80's(?), so you're probably dealing with 25-30 year-old film. I'd perhaps just keep it as a collector's item, unless you have some valuable pics on it which could justify the effort and cost of the special processing?

dwainthomas · Jan 9, 2009

Hmm, I'm not 100% sure if it's AP-41. I don't have the roll with me right now, so I couldn't say exactly. I can describe the canister The lip where the film comes out has a groove near the end and on the top and bottom

dwainthomas · Jan 9, 2009

railwayman3 said:
I'm sure it's the same process as CT-18, well before Agfa converted to E6 equivalent, and as such totally incompatable with present chemicals.

I believe it was discontinued around the early 80's(?), so you're probably dealing with 25-30 year-old film. I'd perhaps just keep it as a collector's item, unless you have some valuable pics on it which could justify the effort and cost of the special processing?

I wish i knew it was this special to develop...lol.

archphoto · Jan 9, 2009

Maybe in Europe in some places, when I used it was somewhere in the 80s and than it was not a common film, beautifull and rare.

And please state at least your location.

wogster · Jan 9, 2009

digitallure said:
I wish i knew it was this special to develop...lol.

Don't be surprised if places like Film Rescue or Rocky Mountain don't tell you that they process this film as B&W negatives. If it's really that old the colour casts may be way off anyway.

archphoto · Jan 9, 2009

I contacted a pro-lab in the Netherlands, will get an answer on monday or there after.

dwainthomas · Jan 9, 2009

archphoto said:
Maybe in Europe in some places, when I used it was somewhere in the 80s and than it was not a common film, beautifull and rare.

And please state at least your location.

It did mention that it was made in Germany but all the writing was in english if that helps

archphoto · Jan 9, 2009

If you can send me a foto or scan from the box the film was shipped in, maybe I can figure out some more.....

archphoto@aol.nl

dwainthomas · Jan 9, 2009

archphoto said:
If you can send me a foto or scan from the box the film was shipped in, maybe I can figure out some more.....

archphoto@aol.nl

Will do. I'm at work right now so i will get an image to ya and also post in the thread.

kevs · Jan 10, 2009

Hi Digitallure,

There's also Process C22 in Margate, England and their website is http://www.processc22.co.uk/

HTH

archphoto · Jan 12, 2009

Fredrik Sandstrom said:
Is this an AP-41 process film, like Agfa CT18? If so, http://www.processc22.co.uk/ in the UK can also process it.

This seems to be your best bet, in Holland nobody processes this film anymore.

Goog luck
Peter

dwainthomas · Jan 16, 2009

here are some images of the roll.

archphoto · Jan 16, 2009

The photo's don't have any information about processing unfortunately.
I would ship them to the UK as been mentioned before.
They are your best bet to get a "good" result.

Peter

dwainthomas · Jan 16, 2009

I didn't have the whole box, just the flap that had the same info as the lable on the canister. I'll find out how much it will cost to ship.

PHOTOTONE · Jan 16, 2009

Has anyone thought about contacting Agfa/Geavart in Belgium? Since they were the parent arm of Agfa/Germany I'm sure they could tell you what process the film was designed for. Yes, they are still in business making film products, just not consumer film.

You can get contact information from their web site: http://www.agfa.com/en/sp/index.jsp

dwainthomas · Jan 16, 2009

PHOTOTONE said:
Has anyone thought about contacting Agfa/Geavart in Belgium? Since they were the parent arm of Agfa/Germany I'm sure they could tell you what process the film was designed for. Yes, they are still in business making film products, just not consumer film.

You can get contact information from their web site: http://www.agfa.com/en/sp/index.jsp

man, I would make a comment but I wouldn't want it to be taken out of context, (all in fun), but honestly i didn't even think to think of that I'll give them a call.

MattKing · Jan 16, 2009

digitallure said:
I didn't have the whole box, just the flap that had the same info as the lable on the canister. I'll find out how much it will cost to ship.

I have 4 rolls of this in still shrink wrapped boxes, plus a dozen or so rolls in the metal canisters, without the boxes.

The boxes say "process before 2/78" and "Emulsion number 6587" and "Price includes processing and mounting by: Agfa Processing Service"

They also say the same thing in French (this is film manufactured in W. Germany, but sold in Canada).

There is nothing else anywhere about which process is used.

This all came from the freezer of someone who used to be an avid photographer, but passed away last year.

Matt

archphoto · Jan 16, 2009

Matt: typical for that era...... processing and mounting was included in the price, so they did not have to say anything about it.
31 year old film.... I wonder what will come out of it.....

Peter

nickandre · Jan 16, 2009

You could probably scratch mix chemistry. Anyone know where to find CD-1?

MattKing · Jan 17, 2009

archphoto said:
Matt: typical for that era...... processing and mounting was included in the price, so they did not have to say anything about it.
31 year old film.... I wonder what will come out of it.....

Peter

Actually Peter, processing and mounted included was normal for the Canadian market until very recently.

I don't think it is practically possible to have anything come out of the film that I have - I don't think the processing is available.

I kept it because of memories, and because I like the canisters .

If someone wants it, contact me.

Matt

dwainthomas · Jan 21, 2009

Just got some info from C 22:

"The film is developed using a process known as Agfachrome 41, we call it AP-41. It is a very different system to Kodachrome and Ektachrome, and was discontinued around 1990. At that time it was still used for Agfa 8mm movie films".

This helps a lot Those are some cool people.

Thanks for all of your help here.

Heinz_Anderle · Jan 22, 2009

As I have read a comparison test of several E-6 and pre-E-6 slide films in a German photo magazine around 1981/1982, the processing of West German Agfachrome and East German Orwochrom films was so similar (as the technology), that the Orwo film came out well with Agfa's AP-41 processing. Why not try Agfachrome with the Orwo 9165 process:

http://www.grosskabinett.de/photo/Labor/Rezepte/11.php (in German)

Orwo T22 = CD1 color developer

AP-41: 12 - 14 min first dev. at 24 °C
Orwo 9165: 10 - 12 min at 25 °C

AP-41: 10 - 11 min color dev. at 24 °C
Orwo 9165: 10 - 12 min at 25 °C

Especially the frozen film stock could be helpful - one could cut one exposed film into several pieces to optimize the time.

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