Agfa Viradon for double toning

[marko_trebusak]

I read an article on Unblinking Eye about double toning of the prints. I would like to try this, but the only brown toner that I can get is Agfa's Viradon. Now would this one work the same as the Kodak's Brown Toner?

Marko

 

[Ryuji]

They aren't the same thing but same kind of toner based on polysulfide.

 

[clogz]

Marko,
Have you considered the Moersch toners?
http://www.moersch-photochemie.de/index.php

 

[titrisol]

Which combination would you use?
Viradon is a polysulfide developer, so it should work OK with selenium and gold.

Viradon + selenium (paterson) work well.
haven;t tried gold though.

 

[marko_trebusak]

Which combination would you use?

I would like to try selenium+Viradon, so I should be OK.

Marko

 

[photomc]

Seems like original Viradon WAS a mixture of a poly-sulfide toner and selenium...

 

[Ole]

Seems like original Viradon WAS a mixture of a poly-sulfide toner and selenium...

So it was... I'm on the final bottle now. Unbeatable combination.

 

[titrisol]

can the old viradon be replicate by mixing some slelnium into new viradon?

 

[Ole]

can the old viradon be replicate by mixing some slelnium into new viradon?

If you can get sodium selenide, I guess so. I think the reason the selenium disappeared from the (New! Improved!) Viradon is due to a rather hazardous production procedure...


In other words: Don't try it unless you know exactly what you are doing.

 

[Stane Kočar]

I read an article on Unblinking Eye about double toning of the prints. I would like to try this, but the only brown toner that I can get is Agfa's Viradon. Now would this one work the same as the Kodak's Brown Toner?

Marko

Marko, try to get Kodak Brown Toner (KBT) or Tetenal brown toner. Agfa Viradon New is similar to KBT (not the same - you may expect a little different color).
I have done some double toning so far.
If you have any questions, you may write me directly.

Lep pozdrav
Stane Kočar

 

[marko_trebusak]

Guys and gals, thank you very much for your help.

Any specific articles where more can be learned?

Thank you
Marko

 

[Mark Layne]

Tim Rudman,s Toning book will save you the cost of both materials and mental anguish.

 

[skahde]

can the old viradon be replicate by mixing some slelnium into new viradon?

I would use it the way you would use KBT with KRST to make a poly-toner. I did this with a homebrew IPI-toner which is just a borax-buffered polysulfide-solution and this works very well. It gives aubergine/cold browns on Agfa MCP after a minute and just a tint of eggplant on Ilford MGIV RC after 3 min.

You can't do much wrong as long as you take usual care and precautions, i.e. gloves, good ventilation, no drinking/eating/smoking untill finished.

best

Stefan

 

[photomc]

Tim Rudman,s Toning book will save you the cost of both materials and mental anguish.

Ditto, go buy it, get a copy, you have to see it....

Oh! yeah..it is a very good book to have.