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Ian Grant

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Refinal is a totally different developer to Rodinal Marko.

I'm not sure if A&O are manufacturing it, I think it has been dropped from the Agfa range.

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Markok765 said:
Don't you mean rodinal?
No, I mean Refinal, a two-part powder form fine-grain developer which used to come in a package to make 5 litres of stock solution.
The Agfa version of D-76 and ID-11 but uses Phenidone instead of Metol.
 

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Yes, Refinal is in production.
 
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Petzi said:
Yes, Refinal is in production.
The reason I have enquired about Agfa Refinal is because some one I know wants to use a replenishable PQ developer for use in large tanks for processing sheet films. Refinal is the nearest developer I can think of as a substitute for Microphen which is only available these days in 1 litre packs with the replenisher long discontinued.
I have also suggested Ilford DD (Dip & Dunk Developer) or D-76 (ID-11) to him.
Is the replenisher for Refinal also still available?
 

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Agfa Refinal for 5 x 5 litres is currently available (code BVLZA). The Refinal M replenisher for 2 x 50 litres (code A55F4) is not currently listed. I will inquire if they still make it, or intend to make it in the future.
 

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Refinal is VERY much like Microphen.

Ilford DD would be a slam dunk for me, though.
 
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Petzi said:
Agfa Refinal for 5 x 5 litres is currently available (code BVLZA). The Refinal M replenisher for 2 x 50 litres (code A55F4) is not currently listed. I will inquire if they still make it, or intend to make it in the future.
It looks like Refinal is out of the running then, I can`t imagine him mixing up 50 litres of replenisher unless he uses his bath tub. :D
 

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Our F76plus Developer is sold and used in both manual and automatic, replenisehed systems. I do have the times and temperatures for most machines. The dilution is 1+5. Developer and Replenisher are the same, with no starter required.
 

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Keith Tapscott. said:
It looks like Refinal is out of the running then, I can`t imagine him mixing up 50 litres of replenisher unless he uses his bath tub. :D

This is meant for professional labs where the chemicals mixer for these amounts is standard equipment. :wink:
 

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As the subject of AGFA-GEVAERT's Rifinal and its replenisher is up now, I would like to know what to add to the replenisher in order to make it an full working developer. I happen to have 10 bags for 5 l work of original AGFA-GEVAERT made Refinal replenisher and am running out of the developer (the last 5 bags), which I like a lot (at 1+3). The developer and replnischer are still good working after more than 5 years of laying around in the bags, this formula is incredibly stable...
 

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What is in this developer seems to be as great a secret as the floorplan to Fort Knox. The Agfa MSDS is given for only Part A and only lists EDTA acid. Good luck on this.
 
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