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Taz777

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Any suggestions for a light meter for a beginner to get to grips with manual photography. The prices of the highly rated ones are far too expensive for me at the moment. Budget would be 100-150 GBP.

Would a used one make a more sensible purchase?

Some makes and models that I should look at would be appreciated. I plan on learning via tutorials on YouTube. My ultimate aim would be to use one with my vintage cameras to see if I can get acceptable results from them.
 

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In the US, good-condition used Gossen Luna Pro SBC (aka Profisix in some markets) and Sekonic L-398 meters sell in the $75 (GBP 60) range. The Gossen uses standard 9V batteries; the Sekonic doesn't require a battery but is less suited to low light applications. I own both, purchased used, and both serve me well.
 

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If you already have a smartphone, you can get a light meter app for free. It won't do spot metering, though. But you don't necessarily need that.
 

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If you already have a smartphone, you can get a light meter app for free. It won't do spot metering, though. But you don't necessarily need that.
I am in complete agreement here. Cell phone apps aren't the most accurate light meters in the world, but they're really not bad at all. For a beginner just getting the hang of manual photography an app like My Pocket Light Meter should be more than accurate enough for print film. Download it for free and use the money you would have spent on film and/or processing instead!
 

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I too have used the Pocket Light Meter app, and can tell you it's proven very accurate. You do have to learn to use it, however, as it has a large spot meter in it where you click on a spot and it averages the light based on the spot. So if you have that pointed on a particularly dark or brightly colored area, it will give you and inaccurate reading. The spot is too large to use as an accurate spot meter and too small to use as a typical reflective meter. However, the display reacts to it, so it'll give you a example of about what you can expect.

Pocket Light Meter is also only for iPhone. That's part of what makes it so accurate (they can tune the software to the camera). I've even used it for slide film with reliable results. For Android phones, I haven't found one as good and easy to use. Though there are several that are good enough for most cases. I can't recommend any, because in my 6 months with a Android phone (which I really miss the keyboard on because they are far superior to the ones on iPhones), I went through several and never found one that stood out above the others.

I own several cheap light meters, and they're all based on selenium cells. Selenium loses sensitivity as it ages, so none are particularly accurate, but all are fairly consistent. So if I set the ISO on the meter to 200 while using 400 speed film, they work pretty well. Though really, the phone apps are more accurate and easier to use. Unless you find a really good bargain (which I've run across a couple, so they're out there), you're going to wind up spending a pretty penny for a good, easy to use, accurate light meter. Plus there are so many different styles (incident, incident with flash, reflective, spot, and combinations there of), that you'll be best off using a free app until you find out what kind you want to use, as they all have pros and cons.
 

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If you really into using and learning get one for the mobile phone. It is the best.
Cheap, but working device is TwinMate.
I had, have both. Never feel I need anything else.
 

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In the US, good-condition used Gossen Luna Pro SBC (aka Profisix in some markets) and Sekonic L-398 meters sell in the $75 (GBP 60) range. The Gossen uses standard 9V batteries; the Sekonic doesn't require a battery but is less suited to low light applications. I own both, purchased used, and both serve me well.

I has the Gossen Luna Pro SBC for years. Also I recommend the Sekonic L-308s.
 

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One vote for the Sekonic L-208 Twin Mate. Affordable, compact, pocketable meter capable of incident and reflected light readings, with an analog readout including EV scale. I think an analog readout is great for learning, since you can see all the equivalent exposure settings at a glance. Can be hotshoe mounted and uses a modern CR2032 lithium battery. ~$125 USD brand new, but can be had for much cheaper on the used market.
 

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I've used and highly recommend the Gossen Digisix.

Tiny, inexpensive (I think about a hundred bucks or less) and really accurate. I've shot slide film with it and gotten perfect exposures.

Incident and reflected readings. Even has an alarm clock and temperature gauge in it! And it's really small -- fits easily on your camera hotshoe or easily put around your neck. Can't say enough good things about this meter.
 
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I too have used the Pocket Light Meter app, and can tell you it's proven very accurate. You do have to learn to use it, however, as it has a large spot meter in it where you click on a spot and it averages the light based on the spot. So if you have that pointed on a particularly dark or brightly colored area, it will give you and inaccurate reading. The spot is too large to use as an accurate spot meter and too small to use as a typical reflective meter. However, the display reacts to it, so it'll give you a example of about what you can expect.

Pocket Light Meter is also only for iPhone. That's part of what makes it so accurate (they can tune the software to the camera). I've even used it for slide film with reliable results. For Android phones, I haven't found one as good and easy to use. Though there are several that are good enough for most cases. I can't recommend any, because in my 6 months with a Android phone (which I really miss the keyboard on because they are far superior to the ones on iPhones), I went through several and never found one that stood out above the others.

I own several cheap light meters, and they're all based on selenium cells. Selenium loses sensitivity as it ages, so none are particularly accurate, but all are fairly consistent. So if I set the ISO on the meter to 200 while using 400 speed film, they work pretty well. Though really, the phone apps are more accurate and easier to use. Unless you find a really good bargain (which I've run across a couple, so they're out there), you're going to wind up spending a pretty penny for a good, easy to use, accurate light meter. Plus there are so many different styles (incident, incident with flash, reflective, spot, and combinations there of), that you'll be best off using a free app until you find out what kind you want to use, as they all have pros and cons.

Is it this app that you are referring to?

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Unfortunately, it's not free at the moment, and there's an In-App charge to remove the ads (even after it has been purchased, it seems). Happy to buy it though, if it's highly-rated by members on here.
 

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Nearly all lightmeters I bought cost me less than 5€. Including good Gossen ones. Thus no reason to spend a lot of money.

With the CDS meters you though have to consider battery hassle with the older ones designed for mercury batteries. (Alternative: Zink-Air cells)

The best meter in my eyes, apt for beginners too, is the Gossen Profisix, as it lets you "place" luminance values at the scale off at both sides from a zero position,which is much more intuitive than other scales. It takes countless accessories too. No battery hassle. However it is bulky and that may make you leave it at home... And I have not come across one for 5€ yet...
No longer repaired by Gossen.
 
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With your budget, imo it's a choice between a rebuilt Weston or a used Gossen SBC. Both great meters, it's a matter of how good your eyesight is and how much bulk you can tolerate.

The Westons are dinky, need no batteries and have a good rep. They are very long in the tooth now. You might get lucky and find one that is working well but the selenium sensor degrades over the decades. I'd go for a <£10 cheapo of the the model you want, just to play with. If you can handle the tiny lettering, having it rebuilt will cost ~£100 and you have a meter for life.

My Gossen Profisix SBC is really easy to use. Hit a button once and the needle moves. Rotate the dial until the needle is the middle, the null point. Then you read the settings from the scale. No settings scrunched up at either end of the dial as happens with the Weston or many other meters. Has markings for up to + or - 3 stops. Most importantly for me, I can read the settings without glasses. Downside is its bulk. My Olympus XA fits into the case of my Gossen.
 
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Just one other criteria to add into the mix. I wear reading glasses but usually only indoors when I'm working at my computer. Are the apps or the light meters mentioned easy to read without reading glasses?
 

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Is it this app that you are referring to?

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Unfortunately, it's not free at the moment, and there's an In-App charge to remove the ads (even after it has been purchased, it seems). Happy to buy it though, if it's highly-rated by members on here.

Most of the other apps meter in the same way as they're just backing onto the iphone camera software. Tried a few of them and they all give similar results - just tried Lux and Lumu (both free) in my office and they give the same reading - f2.8, 1/15s, ISO 100.

Had been using myLightMeter Pro for a few years but that's been crashing to a black screen on start up lately.

Anyway, for general photography, phone apps are fine for metering.
 

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I highly recommend a Sekonic Auto-Leader L-188 meter. One can be had for $50usd or less on the auction site. It takes modern 1.5v silver oxide battery, is small, reflected light mode, scale is easy to read without glasses.
http://camera-wiki.org/wiki/Sekonic_L-188
 

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I has the Gossen Luna Pro SBC for years. Also I recommend the Sekonic L-308s.
Personally, I would recommend the L308s as well = basically because I've had one for decades and it has never let me down. Very easy to use + does flash as well, just in case you use that in the future. It has good sized digits and runs on one AA battery. Cost new? Looking now at about 200 quid or so (I bought mine for about 90 quid way back when!) The best buy I can find is a MINT one in Japan, on Ebay.co.uk but they do allow returns and it is within your budget =

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/N-Mint-S...812669?hash=item5931b19bbd:g:87wAAOSwpkddRTge

BUT, initially I think that I'd try out one of the phone apps, although I've heard lots of different reviews for them = good and bad, BUT some are FREE, so what's to loose apart from one test film?

In the long run, I'd still recommend a meter though, based on everything.

Good luck with it all. :smile:

Terry S
 

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Is it this app that you are referring to?

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Unfortunately, it's not free at the moment, and there's an In-App charge to remove the ads (even after it has been purchased, it seems). Happy to buy it though, if it's highly-rated by members on here.
Yeah, that's it. I've never really noticed the ads on mine, so they're not intrusive. Though I guess they got rid of the free version. That's a shame. It used to be free, and that's a large reason why I always recommended it.

There are other free ones you can try. You might give them a go first and see how you like them. The best part about any light meter app is I don't have to carry a light meter around with me (since I always have my phone on me anyway). I bet they're all pretty close as far as accuracy is concerned, as long as you're not using a phone with a weird camera that would be hard to code for.

Well, technically it is oxidization which causes the loss of sensitivity.



Mine have proven to be accurate enough for negative film without any type of compensation.

Technically, yes, you are correct. And that's good that yours still works. It's certainly possible to find one that hasn't oxidized to the point of needing compensation. I haven't come across one yet, and I have several, so I wouldn't think that it's all too common these days to find an old selenium meter that's still functions like new. Plus, it might be hard to verify that before purchasing it if you don't have another light meter to check it against. And there's always the worry that it will degrade in the future. That, and selenium cells don't do well in low light, even when they're working properly. But a working one, even one that need some compensation, is still pretty usable in most situations. That's why I still have, and use several. I especially like my Sekonic LC2 because it looks good when mounted on the cold shoe of several of my old, meter-less cameras (stainless steel), is easy to use, and small.
 

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An l-308 is a good meter, I have one but not sure the cheaper version is still available new. I would consider the l-208 selonic unless you need a flash meter
 

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If you already have a smartphone, you can get a light meter app for free. It won't do spot metering, though. But you don't necessarily need that.

Actually the lumu app (works without lumu device) has spot measuring mode.
 

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Any suggestions for a light meter for a beginner to get to grips with manual photography. The prices of the highly rated ones are far too expensive for me at the moment. Budget would be 100-150 GBP.

Would a used one make a more sensible purchase?

Some makes and models that I should look at would be appreciated. I plan on learning via tutorials on YouTube. My ultimate aim would be to use one with my vintage cameras to see if I can get acceptable results from them.


As you are in UK can I suggest getting in touch with a company called 2nd Hand Darkroom who are based in Oxfordshire. (Just google 2nd hand darkroom) Apart from darkroom equipment, he has a good selection of meters. I bought a Minolta Autometer 3 from them last January to go along with my Minolta Autocord. Cased, together with a 5 degree spotmeter and incident light attachment screen set me back £55.

Minolta meters are no longer made (like a lot of others) but they are reliable and accurate. I have had several over the years and never had a bad one.
 
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