Adox Silvermax in a differently labelled version

[AgX]

The Adox Silvermax (ISO 100) is now also available as Adox Scala 160 BW.


Same Film, same price, but different label.
The idea is to offer a film for the propriatory reversal-processing, offered by two german labs, that yields EI 160.

 

[richyd]

Interesting. I have been processing this as reversal and had been getting good results, sometimes variable as I played around with developer parameters. I exposed at 100ASA and often the results were quite light. The last roll I used, half way through I realised the camera meter was set at 400ASA but those frames weren't horrendously dark as expected. My conclusion in the notes was to try the next roll at 200ASA. It seems to have very good latitude for reversal and it is the closest I have seen to Scala tonality. Scala could also be exposed up to 800ASA with appropriate alteration in development, would be interesting to try that with Silvermax too.

 

[TheToadMen]

How do you like the contrast/tonality of the Adox slides? Could you post some results, please?
I loved using Scala (as a slide film, that is) so I'll add some Adox to my next order.
Thanks,
Bert from Holland

 

[richyd]

Hi Bert
Here are some samples, a contact sheet of Adox Silvermax and of Scala both home processed.
Best of luck.
Richard

 

[TheToadMen]

Hi Bert
Here are some samples, a contact sheet of Adox Silvermax and of Scala both home processed.
Best of luck.
Richard

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Looking very good! Thanks.
What developer (kit) do you use to process this yourself?

 

[davedm]

Richard,

Did you chemically reverse the contact sheet or after scanning ?
Thanks

 

[MartinP]

The examples are black-and-white transparencies I think, photographed in neg-sleeves against a light-table or equivalent. This is the sort of thing the re-labelling is intended to make easier, for marketing purposes and for adding some degree of certainty to the process required. Nice results

 

[richyd]

I processed the film as transparencies myself using my own brew after gleaning knowledge from many informed posters on threads here and other sites. I use a PQ developer and well documented bleach, clear, light reversal, 2nd develop process. It takes a lot of experimenting and the results can still be variable doing it yourself, but I get a a kind of satisfaction with that if it doesn't quite work.

The posted images are indeed images of transparency frames illuminated on a light table and shot with a digital camera. I thought that would be a better way of comparing, as was asked, as it incorporates more scenes and reduces, or at least standardises, potential variables.

 

[davedm]

Thank you Richard and Martin for your responses. I use Jens Osbahr's method for fp4+. Yet to try with silvermax.

 

[Ashfaque]

Hi AgX,

I saw the Fotoimpex page 2 days ago. I have a confusion. Adox Silvermax 100 fact sheet says (p.2)

SILVERMAX 21 can be reversal processed in Agfa SCALA reversal process. Expose to 100 ASA / 21° DIN

Whereas, according to FOTOIMPEX (i.e., Adox) Adox Scala 160 BW is rated at ISO 160.

If they are the same film, why not just mention (in the Silvermax 100 spec sheet) that the film can be exposed @ ISO 160 for reversal processing (with Foma's reversal kit or something similar), instead of releasing a 'new' product? I'm genuinely interested.

Bests,
Ashfaque

 

[AgX]

The idea behind that alternative labelling is to pronounce the special reversability of this film.



But you are correct the fact sheet Statement of the older data-sheet (that is the Silvermax sheet) is contrary to the esposure indication for the Scala 160.

But just now I do not get that Silvermax data sheet at all, but instead that of the respective developer.
I hope Mirko of Fotoimpex shall chime in on this matter.

 

[ADOX Fotoimpex]

You can get good results out of Silvermax @ 100, 160 and 200 ASA if you adjust your reversal process.
When we first released it we thought it is easier to call it 100 for negative and slide in order not to confuse people.
However this is not necessary with two versions of the films and because Klaus Wehner, Studio 13 and Dr5 all think the best results are obtained @ 160 we changed the ISO recomendation. The whole point is to make this an easy working reversal system where no experiments or adjustements have to be made.

Mirko