Adox Fine Print Variotone Warmtone FB Supplier

[Stoo Batchelor]

Hi

Does anyone know of a U.K or European supplier of Adox Fine Print Variotone Warmtone Fiber Paper.

http://www.adox.de/english/ADOX_Papers/page4/page4.html

Thank You

Stoo

 

[waileong]

Lumiere: http://www.lumiere-shop.de

 

[David A. Goldfarb]

fotoimpex.de

 

[Andrey Donchev]

Fotoimpex - the store.

 

[bwakel]

Retrophotographic have Vario Classic and Nuance Warmtone, not sure if that's the same thing.

Barry

 

[Tom Kershaw]

Adox Fine Print Variotone Warmtone FB - Is this the new Harman manufactured paper?

 

[Wolfgang Moersch]

yes, it is

 

[Stoo Batchelor]

Thank you all for your help.

Fotoimpex do not appear to stock this paper, though Lumiere does, and thanks for the link waileong. That said, boy oh boy it is expensive. £23.83 for 25 sheets of 12 x 91/2, and shipping would be on top of that. I am always keen to try a new semi-matt paper, but could not justify spending that sort of cash.

As an aside, I contacted Silverprint by phone to ask if they were to stock the paper. The young lady I spoke to was not too sure. I am to ring back Monday to speak to a man who will know. I am sure that if they were to stock the paper, the price would be quite competitive.

Thanks again

Stoo

 

[Stoo Batchelor]

Retrophotographic have Vario Classic and Nuance Warmtone, not sure if that's the same thing.

Barry

Just to explain,

ADOX Fineprint Variotone is a newly developed warmtone paper made in cooperation with Harman Technology and Wolfgang Moersch.
ADOX Fine Print Variotone is coated onto a bright white base and thus produces a maximum in tonal values from deep blacks to bright white highlights.
The paper is especially formulated to tone perfectly in various toners.

The paper is available in glossy or semi-matt. It does sound like everything one could ask from a paper. Examples of prints on this paper can been seen on Wolfgangs own site.

Best

Stoo

 

[Ian Grant]

Adox is Fotoimpex, it's their brand name so they will definitely stock it, it's made for them and they are also the disributors

Ian

 

[David A. Goldfarb]

E-mail Mirko on Fotoimpex.de. Sometimes their website isn't up to date, but as Ian says, they are the distributors of this paper, so they definitely have it.

 

[ath]

Fotoimpex do not appear to stock this paper

They do: http://www.fotoimpex.de/shop/de/ind... Gradation&artnr=2189&pn=0&sort=0&all=&items=

 

[Stoo Batchelor]

Dear Ian, David and Andreas

Thank you all so much.

I see where I am going wrong. I downloaded the English version of the Fotoimpex catalogue, which is a 2007 version. I can see that the online German version of the catalogue does list the Variotone. It is still very dear at £23.83 to be a paper for everyday use, especially the amount of sheets I go through. I will give it a try though, but will wait for a U.K supplier, just to bring the cost down a bit (no postage)

And blimey, aren't the Fotoimpex team young , or am I just getting old!

Thank you all again

Stoo

 

[Tom Kershaw]

£23.83, paper size and number of sheets?

Tom.

 

[Stoo Batchelor]

£23.83, paper size and number of sheets?

Tom.

Sorry Tom, thats 25 sheets of 12 x 9 1/2. pushing £50 for 50 sheets, compared to most papers at about £30 ish, just a little over. Add carriage to that and....

Best

Stoo

 

[Stoo Batchelor]

Just to add,

Don't get me wrong, I know you always have to pay a little bit extra for quality, but I feel that there is always a learning curve with a new paper, and a lot of it ends up in the bin before you produce the first print that you are really satisfied with. I can remember Kentmere used to send out sample packs of about five sheets, just to give you a taster. I suppose I could always ask Adox, they can only say no

Stoo

 

[Tom Kershaw]

Sorry Tom, thats 25 sheets of 12 x 9 1/2. pushing £50 for 50 sheets, compared to most papers at about £30 ish, just a little over. Add carriage to that and....

About the price of Fomatone MG 532 II 12 x 9 1/2.

 

[Stoo Batchelor]

About the price of Fomatone MG 532 II 12 x 9 1/2.

Yes, I suppose you have to expect to pay a little bit extra for a specialist paper. I am not familiar with the MG 532 II, but I still have a box of Kentmere Art Classic in the freezer, and that always cost that little bit extra. The Adox Variatone would have to be something very special, as the price of the Adox Fine Print Vario Classic is £27.60 for a box of 50 sheets of 12 x 9 1/2. Thats a huge difference in price.

Stoo

 

[rst]

I tried the Variotone and compared it to other papers. I also showed these images to other people to choose which they like most without knowing about which was which. Almost everyone chose the Variotone closely followed by the Ilford MG Warmtone and then came Ilford MG IV, Rollei Vintage etc. I would compare the paper more towards the Ilford Warmtone with a bright white paper base. I like the paper.

Cheers
Ruediger

 

[pentaxuser]

Stoo. It's all relative. Assuming that 50 sheets would be twice as expensive it works out at £48 for 50. RK Photographic want £46.97 for Ilford Warmtone FB which is only £1.03 cheaper. B&W paper seems to have gone through the roof price-wise in recent months. Maybe it as well it's produced by Ilford in the U.K. I'd expect any paper produced in Europe and tied to the euro to get very expensive in the next few months given the fall in the £ to euro exchange rate. OK RK may be more expensive than most but in the face of a recession the timing of the price increase is to say the least unfortunate.

Warmtone has always been expensive. Combine it with FB and in recent months it is certainly not the paper of choice for general prints if money is important which for most of us is likely to be the case in 2009.

pentaxuser

 

[Stoo Batchelor]

Stoo. It's all relative. Assuming that 50 sheets would be twice as expensive it works out at £48 for 50. RK Photographic want £46.97 for Ilford Warmtone FB which is only £1.03 cheaper. B&W paper seems to have gone through the roof price-wise in recent months. Maybe it as well it's produced by Ilford in the U.K. I'd expect any paper produced in Europe and tied to the euro to get very expensive in the next few months given the fall in the £ to euro exchange rate. OK RK may be more expensive than most but in the face of a recession the timing of the price increase is to say the least unfortunate.

Warmtone has always been expensive. Combine it with FB and in recent months it is certainly not the paper of choice for general prints if money is important which for most of us is likely to be the case in 2009.

pentaxuser

P,U...Thanks for enlightening me to the expense of warmtone papers. I was not aware that they were so expensive. Of course this means that the Variotone pricing fits very well in to the market, and is competitively priced. It would seem that they had done their homework before releasing the paper.

I tried the Variotone and compared it to other papers. I also showed these images to other people to choose which they like most without knowing about which was which. Almost everyone chose the Variotone closely followed by the Ilford MG Warmtone and then came Ilford MG IV, Rollei Vintage etc. I would compare the paper more towards the Ilford Warmtone with a bright white paper base. I like the paper.

Cheers
Ruediger

Thank you Ruediger for a small glimpse in to your findings. Very helpfull indeed. I shall most certainly be giving the paper a try.

Kindest Regards

Stoo