Acros 100 in peril?

about to extinct

D
about to extinct

  • 2
  • 0
  • 95
Fantasyland!

D
Fantasyland!

  • 9
  • 2
  • 132
perfect cirkel

D
perfect cirkel

  • 2
  • 1
  • 130

Recent Classifieds

Forum statistics

Threads
198,752
Messages
2,780,376
Members
99,697
Latest member
Fedia
Recent bookmarks
6

Lachlan Young

Member
Joined
Dec 2, 2005
Messages
4,939
Location
Glasgow
Format
Multi Format
How do you figure?

It's a tool for me and a good one as some of the best light I like to work in falls off quickly in weather and shorter seasons. You had mentioned it was not a film with personality and from a purely technical standpoint, I would agree with that but a great photographer can take this film and pair it with great light, great subject matter and end up with a stellar photograph.

Conversely, I like Pan-F for the opposite reasons, when I want super long exposures and want to take advantage of it's dismal reciprocity characteristics. Again, a tool for me, not a sole decider.

My post was mainly intended as mild provocation to see if anyone could offer up anything about the film that's aesthetically distinctive...

All films are part of the tool kit, but some are rather easier to get distinctive, expressive results from. A lot is down to the skill of the printer & I think people would be amazed at how well some awful negatives can be printed. If the the light & everything else is under control, then making stunning prints becomes massively easier, but the film will still have an influence. I just happen to find most other films than Acros rather more inspiring to print from - don't get me wrong, I've made some of my favourite images on Acros, but I sometimes wonder if I'd like them even more if I'd made them on Delta 100 instead...
 

Old-N-Feeble

Member
Joined
Feb 22, 2012
Messages
6,805
Location
South Texas
Format
Multi Format
I'm sure Acros users' primary lamentation of its demise will be the film's uncanny low light reciprocity capability. This by far is what differentiates it from all other offerings... past, present, and perhaps the future.
 

mshchem

Subscriber
Joined
Nov 26, 2007
Messages
14,628
Location
Iowa City, Iowa USA
Format
Medium Format
For crying out loud, DONT BUY ANYMORE ACROS. BUY FROM ILFORD OR ONE OF THE OTHERS. Fuji did this with pack film, created hysteria and cleaned out their warehouses in a few weeks. Now all the panicked buyers are sitting on aging pack film. I know it's disappointing to me, I have quite a few rolls of Acros, it's lovely film. But so is TMX, FP4 ,Delta 100, Foma films and don't forget Ferrania. These guys really want our business, don't push away the companies that are committed to film AND paper
Best Regards Mike
 
Joined
Jul 1, 2008
Messages
5,462
Location
.
Format
Digital
For crying out loud, DONT BUY ANYMORE ACROS. BUY FROM ILFORD OR ONE OF THE OTHERS. Fuji did this with pack film, created hysteria and cleaned out their warehouses in a few weeks. Now all the panicked buyers are sitting on aging pack film. I know it's disappointing to me, I have quite a few rolls of Acros, it's lovely film. But so is TMX, FP4 ,Delta 100, Foma films and don't forget Ferrania. These guys really want our business, don't push away the companies that are committed to film AND paper
Best Regards Mike

For some of us in other lands, ACROS 100 has not been available at all for a long while, effectively 'indef indent' at dealers. And so from what I can see 'togs are using Ilford and Kodak; myself -- I use Pan F+ 50 and TMax. No ACROS? No love lost...
 

lantau

Member
Joined
Jan 15, 2016
Messages
826
Location
Germany
Format
Multi Format
My post was mainly intended as mild provocation to see if anyone could offer up anything about the film that's aesthetically distinctive...

All films are part of the tool kit, but some are rather easier to get distinctive, expressive results from. A lot is down to the skill of the printer & I think people would be amazed at how well some awful negatives can be printed. If the the light & everything else is under control, then making stunning prints becomes massively easier, but the film will still have an influence. I just happen to find most other films than Acros rather more inspiring to print from - don't get me wrong, I've made some of my favourite images on Acros, but I sometimes wonder if I'd like them even more if I'd made them on Delta 100 instead...

As I wrote just a few posts above your last, I feel that Acros has a unique look. Maybe not in every pictures taken, but when those blacks become an important part of the picture it shines. I'm surprised no one else has mentioned that. On social media I saw other people, who observed the same.

I have to admit to not having played with TMX so far, but a roll for 135 and 120 are right in front of me, now. I have used Delta100 in 120, but for reversal only. I have a roll of it in 135 in the fridge, left from an Ilford sampler. I'll have to try that too. But I never saw anyone mention out there in the internets, nor here, that any film does replicate the Acros look. Not on its own, anyway.

I have used two or three rolls of PanF+ before. That one shares the characteristic of quickly loosing shadows, without much gradient leading into those black holes, when underexposing them just a bit too much. But I haven't noticed that silky black feature with it. That gives me only the disadvantage of Acros without its advantages. Maybe it just wasn't the right subjects.

So for me what I loose with that film is indeed the look. As much as I dislike that word. Those blacks and the clarity resulting from the fine grain and sharpness. While it shares that clarity with a well done digital image (especially MF Acros), there is more to it. It's especially amazing when printed on Fomatone MG 332 (RC, matte). I just don't think I'm good enough in digital post processing to replicate that with my digicam.

So yes, I'm going to miss that unique look that I see in it. Really the only film that has an actual look, that I recongnise. All other films have their own qualities, but I couldn't say that I've ever looked at a picture and said that is film XXX. Only with Acros does this happen. Not always and I'm not alway right, of course. But more so than with others. Digital images do sometimes get close enough to fool me.

The excellent reciprocity is just a nice add on. I've only used it once, so far. And for my pinhole I didn't want to pay the price for Acros, thinking it'd be a waste to use such an excellent film for it. Now I'd rather spend the money for stocking up on Acros rollfilms.
 

RattyMouse

Member
Joined
Oct 18, 2011
Messages
6,045
Location
Ann Arbor, Mi
Format
Multi Format
For crying out loud, DONT BUY ANYMORE ACROS. BUY FROM ILFORD OR ONE OF THE OTHERS. Fuji did this with pack film, created hysteria and cleaned out their warehouses in a few weeks. Now all the panicked buyers are sitting on aging pack film. I know it's disappointing to me, I have quite a few rolls of Acros, it's lovely film. But so is TMX, FP4 ,Delta 100, Foma films and don't forget Ferrania. These guys really want our business, don't push away the companies that are committed to film AND paper
Best Regards Mike

I have been shooting with Acros almost exclusively for 6 years. I'm going to continue until it's no longer available. We'll see what the prices are once stock returns to the market.
 

Ai Print

Subscriber
Joined
May 28, 2015
Messages
1,292
Location
Colorado
Format
Multi Format
For crying out loud, DONT BUY ANYMORE ACROS. BUY FROM ILFORD OR ONE OF THE OTHERS. Fuji did this with pack film, created hysteria and cleaned out their warehouses in a few weeks. Now all the panicked buyers are sitting on aging pack film. I know it's disappointing to me, I have quite a few rolls of Acros, it's lovely film. But so is TMX, FP4 ,Delta 100, Foma films and don't forget Ferrania. These guys really want our business, don't push away the companies that are committed to film AND paper
Best Regards Mike

What makes you think that people are not using other films? I also use Tmax 100, 400 and Pan-F. I stocked up on Acros because it serves a specific need for me and I can still get it before the speculators hoard it.

Acros is the only Fuji film I used, the rest has been Ilford and Kodak.
 

mshchem

Subscriber
Joined
Nov 26, 2007
Messages
14,628
Location
Iowa City, Iowa USA
Format
Medium Format
What makes you think that people are not using other films? I also use Tmax 100, 400 and Pan-F. I stocked up on Acros because it serves a specific need for me and I can still get it before the speculators hoard it.

Acros is the only Fuji film I used, the rest has been Ilford and Kodak.
You are correct. I just get worked up with all the changes. People vote with their wallet. We have voted in Amazon, Walmart, Zappos, B&H, etc. All our local shops are closing . I'm as guilty as anyone. I sure do miss the 20th century. :redface:
Best Regards Mike
 

Craig

Subscriber
Joined
Apr 8, 2004
Messages
2,330
Location
Calgary
Format
Multi Format
We have voted in Amazon, Walmart, Zappos, B&H, etc. All our local shops are closing .

I haven't voted that way! I buy all my film at the local camera store, and have never bought anything at B&H. People here have tried to convince me that I should be buying from B&H instead of my local store, even when the local store is cheaper. Most odd.
 

RattyMouse

Member
Joined
Oct 18, 2011
Messages
6,045
Location
Ann Arbor, Mi
Format
Multi Format
Acros has been removed from B & H's web site. It's now listed as discontinued. Previously it was listed as out of stock, with more on the way, expected in 7-14 days. That message has been taken down.

Wow......I'm speechless that the supply is apparently gone already from the usual supply chain.
 

warden

Subscriber
Joined
Jul 21, 2009
Messages
3,033
Location
Philadelphia
Format
Medium Format
I haven't voted that way! I buy all my film at the local camera store, and have never bought anything at B&H. People here have tried to convince me that I should be buying from B&H instead of my local store, even when the local store is cheaper. Most odd.

In 2018 what's odd is that you have a local store that can beat B&H prices. It's great that you can support them. I wish I had one too, but online retailers for me are cheaper and with much better selection, and ship for free to my door. It's hard for the locals to compete for sure, and I feel for them.
 

RattyMouse

Member
Joined
Oct 18, 2011
Messages
6,045
Location
Ann Arbor, Mi
Format
Multi Format
In 2018 what's odd is that you have a local store that can beat B&H prices. It's great that you can support them. I wish I had one too, but online retailers for me are cheaper and with much better selection, and ship for free to my door. It's hard for the locals to compete for sure, and I feel for them.

He's in Canada so he has importation issues. Here in the US, no brick and mortar store can compete with B & H.
 

RattyMouse

Member
Joined
Oct 18, 2011
Messages
6,045
Location
Ann Arbor, Mi
Format
Multi Format
Yesterday Amazon.com had over 10 boxes of Acros 120 size for sale at $29.99/box. Today they have ONE box 120 size for sale at $57.99.

Let the price gouging begin!!
 

RattyMouse

Member
Joined
Oct 18, 2011
Messages
6,045
Location
Ann Arbor, Mi
Format
Multi Format
If Fujifilm were an honest, forthright company, they would have notified their customers before supplies dried up. This has to be the fastest I've ever seen a film go from available to out of stock nationwide. It took an entire weekend for that to happen. None of the previous Fujifilm films went away that fast. One could casually stock up a good 6 months before the supplies dried up.

Not Acros. It seems gone everywhere.

Thank you so very much Fujifilm! You have shown time and time again your dedication to the art of film photography. This customer is very grateful for your efforts!
 

Sirius Glass

Subscriber
Joined
Jan 18, 2007
Messages
50,359
Location
Southern California
Format
Multi Format
Yesterday Amazon.com had over 10 boxes of Acros 120 size for sale at $29.99/box. Today they have ONE box 120 size for sale at $57.99.

Let the price gouging begin!!

And there you have it, folks! That is the reason I buy up film quickly after its discontinuance is announced ===> to keep it from the hoarders!
 

warden

Subscriber
Joined
Jul 21, 2009
Messages
3,033
Location
Philadelphia
Format
Medium Format
If Fujifilm were an honest, forthright company, they would have notified their customers before supplies dried up....

I agree that's a pretty cold way to discontinue a product - basically disappearing three days after the announcement. I'm sure there are some very surprised photographers that don't participate in forums and haven't seen the announcement yet, wondering what the hell happened when they try to restock their film at the regular places.
 

Peter Schrager

Subscriber
Joined
Jul 19, 2004
Messages
4,158
Location
fairfield co
Format
Large Format
Screw fuji...they make cosmetics now
What don't you people get?? I shot across but never really used it much..the 400 film was nice
Funny how they stole all the technology from Kodak to make film but Kodak is still here
I'm in this for the long run..support current suppliers or make your own
Don't support hoarders
 

redrockcoulee

Member
Joined
Feb 7, 2006
Messages
205
Location
Medicine Hat
Format
Medium Format
Downtown Camera has the 120 at the same price with more stock coming and 135 also at their original price in stock. If Fuji had plans to have it s9ld by end of October I doubt that it would have been possible for all of it to be sold in a few days.
 

John Galt

Member
Joined
Mar 8, 2017
Messages
357
Location
Rivendell
Format
Medium Format
I spoke to B&H just a few moments ago, they were just as shocked as we are. I had 10 x 5 packs in my cart last week and today they were gone, So I called hoping for good news. The gentleman read me a memo dated April 6th, Friday, from their distributor that ACROS is done, gone, finished. Buh Bye, see ya, was nice knowin' ya. :/
 

f8&bthere

Member
Joined
Mar 25, 2012
Messages
54
Format
Medium Format
A Forbes.com article just came across my feed saying that along with Acros, Fuji was discontinuing the production of photo paper as well. Couldn't suss out from the blurb if that was the B&W paper they make for the Japan market or if it included Crystal Archive color paper as well.
 

MattKing

Moderator
Moderator
Joined
Apr 24, 2005
Messages
52,877
Location
Delta, BC Canada
Format
Medium Format
A Forbes.com article just came across my feed saying that along with Acros, Fuji was discontinuing the production of photo paper as well. Couldn't suss out from the blurb if that was the B&W paper they make for the Japan market or if it included Crystal Archive color paper as well.
Earlier posts in this thread have made mention that the notice announcing discontinuation of Acros also announced discontinuation of the Fuji black and white photographic paper.
 

Oren Grad

Member
Joined
Feb 17, 2005
Messages
1,619
Format
Large Format
A Forbes.com article just came across my feed saying that along with Acros, Fuji was discontinuing the production of photo paper as well. Couldn't suss out from the blurb if that was the B&W paper they make for the Japan market or if it included Crystal Archive color paper as well.

It's B&W paper only. The specific products being discontinued are:

Fujibro WP FM2
Fujibro WP KM2
Fujibro WP KM3
Fujibro WP KM4

The announcement doesn't mention FM grade 3 - not clear whether that is to remain available for the time being, or whether its discontinuation has been announced elsewhere.
 
Last edited:

RattyMouse

Member
Joined
Oct 18, 2011
Messages
6,045
Location
Ann Arbor, Mi
Format
Multi Format
I agree that's a pretty cold way to discontinue a product - basically disappearing three days after the announcement. I'm sure there are some very surprised photographers that don't participate in forums and haven't seen the announcement yet, wondering what the hell happened when they try to restock their film at the regular places.

I'm seeing a LOT of hate towards Fujifilm in other forums because of the way they backstabbed their customers. Richly deserved IMO after what they pulled.
 

faberryman

Member
Joined
Jun 4, 2016
Messages
6,048
Location
Wherever
Format
Multi Format
I'm seeing a LOT of hate towards Fujifilm in other forums because of the way they backstabbed their customers. Richly deserved IMO after what they pulled.
The discontinuation of an unprofitable product. Not sure how that rises to backstabbing.
 
Last edited:
Photrio.com contains affiliate links to products. We may receive a commission for purchases made through these links.
To read our full affiliate disclosure statement please click Here.

PHOTRIO PARTNERS EQUALLY FUNDING OUR COMMUNITY:



Ilford ADOX Freestyle Photographic Stearman Press Weldon Color Lab Blue Moon Camera & Machine
Top Bottom