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Take it easy Charlie. Your frustration may or may not be warrented, but it's not flattering to air it here.
 

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Charles Webb said:
MHV,
You missed the whole point! The majority of the post was and is hogwash. bye now

Charlie...................................

"The" = ?

His? (whose?)
Yours?
Mine?
Theirs?

And no, you don't have a point I have missed, Humpty Dumpty.
 

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Sibbie Song said:

Chacun a son gout, as they say in France. I find them harsh, even brutal. But I think that if you just underexpose 1/2 to 1 stop and use a non-compensating developer (like D-76 or whatever that Ilford phenidone based equivalent is) and give it about N+1 development, you should have negatives which will print this effect easily. Use about a Grade 4 paper.
 

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Charles Webb said:
jdef is so ...
Charlie.....................

Even if this were true, your invective, verbal incontinence seems little less than pissing in the wind - you just end up relieved but messy - why bother?
 

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Lighting a portrait is 99% of the picture. With lighting that SHOWS the texture, nothing more is NEEDED than a normal camera, with normal film, and normal lens.

Then, ANY photographer can do the job. The part of the process that needs attention is the time with your subject.

The issues of film, color rendition, developer, etc., etc., etc., are not that inmportant because they can accomplish NOTHING unless the light is correct.

In the bad old days, when dinosaurs roamed the earth shooting manly male portraits with 8x10 Deardorffs, it was done simply.

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A question to the original poster: Were you thinking of something like this? If so, check out Chuck Close. This particular image is a Daguerrotype, apart from scoring points for the photographer for effort, I really would not think that a Daguerrotype has all that much to offer which you could not get by using a thin-coated high-contrast blue-sensitive film - at a pinch, ordinary (panchromatic) fine-grain black+white film with a blue filter should get fairly near. I have not been able to find out how Close reproduces his fine-grain Daguerrotypes (assuming they are on metal supports and thus cannot be printed in the usual way). The repros of his work in magazines look like lith prints, but I cannot say for sure.

Regards,

David

PS: All bets are off if your dad has blue eyes - use of blue-sensitive film or a blue filter will make the irises of his eyes disappear!
 
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Sibbie Song said:

While I personally find these examples a bit on the harsh side, too, (the contrast is quite exagerated) you might also look at examples of "character" portraits done of the older character actors during Hollywood's hayday. Examine the highlights in the eyes, and the shadows to determine the number and placement of light sources used to accentuate the "weathered" look. In many cases, this was done with stronger side lighting than would be customary for traditional portraits. Then, decide how you want to approach the effort.

For the sake of your father's feelings, though, you might also want to shoot a few "conventional" images, too. Not all of us older folks fully appreciate our wrinkles. :wink:
 
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