Amen to that!But either drink will help you forget about silly arguments like this.
See what happens when you shoot instead of talk?
I think most people call them platinum prints because it is just a quick and easy way to make people understand what you are doing.
Sandy, I see your point. Not to get off the topic of platinum/palladium. But an interesting thing happened just yesterday. The wife is a RN and a couple of her coworkers were over. They were having a few drinks and the wife was showing them a few plates we have been doing in wet plate collodion. As I was starting to explain the process they all said, oh! you mean like a collodion bandage? From that point they seemed to grasp how the process worked better than most photographers do. I was somewhat taken back by their knowledge. After they left I made mention to the wife of how impressed I was. She made it a point to assure me that they were just as knowledgeable about the periodic table, if not more so, than most photographers. I just went to bed thinking, yeah, I bet she schooled those girls before they got here.
You are a much better man than me if you are able to call them platinum prints and make people understand what you are doing. I have never yet run into a lay person who had the slightest clue as to the process of platinum printing, and very few photographers for that matter. In fact, I recently showed a palladium print to a pretty smart fellow, mentioning that it was a palladium print. His comment was, oh, so that is what daguerreotypes look like!
Given that frame of understanding I believe we are better served by being true to our selves and calling a spade a spade. If the print is made from palladium salts I call it a palladium, if from platinum salts I call it a platinum, and if from the two salts combined I call it a pt./pd. This does not lead to greater understanding from the lay public but at least I have done my part to not add to the confusion by being exact.
Sandy King
But the vast majority of people I talk to about platinum prints don't know what palladium is and couldn't care less. The technical specifics are irrelevant for them - they want to know about the pictures, why I make them, and how the pictures make them feel. Abbreviating to just "platinum" actually helps them because it makes the geeky/techy side just a little bit more human.
If I'm talking to someone who does care about the technical specifics then of course I explain the role palladium plays, the ratios I use, the paper, etc.
Using long, complicated, jargon-like words when they're not necessary just switches people off. It's a matter of understanding what your audience wants and talking at the level of detail that's right for them. That's not lying, that's just good communication.
I've been thinking a bit more about some of the questions raised on this thread. How does the following definition work for you?
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A platinum print is a print made using one of several processes which use the platinum family of metals to form an image under ultraviolet light.
Platinum printers use numerous process variations to achieve the particular aesthetic they are seeking. The main variations include printing on different papers, adding additional metals such as palladium to the emulsion, and using different chemical treatments while making the print.
Platinum printing is a contact printing process which requires a negative the same size as the final print. There are several ways of creating these negatives including in a large format camera, under an enlarger, or using a computer system.
Regardless of how the negatives are made, the actual prints are made by hand: they can't be made by a machine, and they can't be made by a computer system.
I've been thinking a bit more about some of the questions raised on this thread. How does the following definition work for you?
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A platinum print is a print made using one of several processes which use the platinum family of metals to form an image under ultraviolet light.
Platinum printers use numerous process variations to achieve the particular aesthetic they are seeking. The main variations include printing on different papers, adding additional metals such as palladium to the emulsion, and using different chemical treatments while making the print.
Platinum printing is a contact printing process which requires a negative the same size as the final print. There are several ways of creating these negatives including in a large format camera, under an enlarger, or using a computer system.
Regardless of how the negatives are made, the actual prints are made by hand: they can't be made by a machine, and they can't be made by a computer system.
First, it is not the platinum family of metals that form the image under ultraviolet light. The light sensitive metal is ferric oxalate, which reacts on exposure to UV light to give ferrous oxalate. The ferrous oxalate which is formed by the UV light functions as a reducing agent which converts the noble metal salt to a metallic state via a chemical reaction.
Second, many people (those who use only palladium salt in the emulsion and dichromate as the contrast control) print only in pure palladium and don't use any platinum metal at all. Is it OK to call these platinum prints even though they contain zero amount of platinum?
Also, I frequently make kallitype prints which are then toned with either palladium or platinum. Since the more noble metal replaces the silver metal the final print is one which is made up of a very high percentage (90% plus) of the toning metal. In essence, if I tone a kallitype print with platinum the print then contains a much higher percentage of platinum metal than a print made from pure palladium (which contains no platinum at all), or for that matter the toned kallitype contains more platinum metal than a print made from a 1:1 mix of palladium and platinum salts in the emulsion. Is it OK to call these platinum toned kallitypes platinum prints?
I think the real point is that many people want to use the term "platinum printing" because the word platinum is pretty much a synonym for something that costs a lot, and that is the real appeal of these prints to the "lay public." By contrast, the lay public by and large knows nothing about palladium, and even though pure palladium is in many ways a much more elegant process than pure platinum, or pt/pd, it does not speak money as does platinum.
I would think it is always better to educate... (snip)
It seems if someone is truly interested they will want to know the true process, or they are a snob who cares more about the label than the work. Of course this presupposes that they gave a damn to begin with.
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