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For Sale 90mm f/8 Caltar-W (= Super Angulon) cells

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Selling the cells only from a 90mm Caltar-W. This is a Calumet-branded Schneider Super-Angulon. The shutter is not included in this sale but appears in some of the photos because it made it easier to hold.

The cell barrels have slight marking and other signs of wear, and there's some engraving around the edge of the front cell. A 67mm filter screws in fine. There's minor internal dust. The outer surfaces are generally clear and clean, though not perfect. The big issue with this set is the damage to the internal glass of the rear cell - someone really did a job on this poor lens. There's nothing obviously wrong with the front cell, or with the outer element of the rear cell.

Just for giggles I set up a simple photo from my back deck to compare this lens to a 90mm f/8 Nikkor-SW with both lenses wide open and at f/22 (the damage is completely occluded by the aperture blades well before f/22) and contact-printed the four resulting negatives on a single sheet of paper. The included image shows a single contact sheet of the 4 negatives. It started as a RAW file in my Nikon D7200, then I cropped it to a TIFF and resized to 1200 pixels on the long edge before saving as a JPG. I know which is which, can you figure it out? If you want the RAW file send me your email address; I can also provide a cropped TIF if you want.

This is a good donor if the front cell of your Super-Angulon has problems. You might also be able to use the rear cell's outer element if yours is in bad condition though I can't vouch for the results of mixing and matching elements like this. Or use it during rainstorms (or worse!) when you don't want to take out your pristine 90mm - you'll need to provide a Copal 0 shutter. You don't have much to lose at my $35 (shipped-and-PayPal'd in the US) asking price. It's probably not worth the expense to ship this outside the US, but if you're willing to pay the currently exorbitant international shipping costs we can give it a go.
 
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Do you happen to know if the Copal 0 on the Polaroid Copy Cameras is interchangeable with the regular Copal 0?
 
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I think the Polaroid Copy Cameras used a Copal 0 Press shutter. I don't have one to try, but the cells do fit into a Prontor Press 0 I've got.
 

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I think the Polaroid Copy Cameras used a Copal 0 Press shutter. I don't have one to try, but the cells do fit into a Prontor Press 0 I've got.

I think you are right as well; they were press shutters. Seem to recall those are slightly thinner, so it might not work and, correct me if I am wrong, some of them didn't have aperture blades either.

Not sure; been too long...
 

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Do you happen to know if the Copal 0 on the Polaroid Copy Cameras is interchangeable with the regular Copal 0?

Not quite. The standard shutter's tube length is 20 mm. The Polaroid version's is 22 mm. Threading's the same, though.
 

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I have a Polaroid Copal no.0 shutter. Tube length is 20mm. I've used a no.0 lens on it without issues.

Oh, dear, wrong again! Me, that is, not you. Except that I've measured too. So the wretched things must not all be exactly the same.

Another risk of using Polaroid Copal shutters is that some have diaphragms with small maximum openings. Many years ago Jim Galli, whom I greet in passing, posted, possibly here, about how to remove the restriction.
 

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Just gathering wool, but a suitable Polaroid Copal 0 shutter and a judicious application of black paint just might make someone a lens suitable for a 3D printed pano camera.

But then again, I have far too many projects languishing in the basement to take it on...

I will shut up now.
 

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To clarify (hope the OP doesn't mind), I couldn't measure my Polaroid Copal precisely because it has suffered a fall. But before that I did use a lens on it and the images were fine. So I'm assuming the tube length is compatible. 22mm is quite a difference but who knows. I have an intact Copal Press no.1 and this one is 20.0mm.
 

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I have a shutter/ lens from a Polaroid MP5 copy camera. I can’t remove the front element to measure. Does anyone know if it looks like it might work with these lenses ?
To clarify (hope the OP doesn't mind), I couldn't measure my Polaroid Copal precisely because it has suffered a fall. But before that I did use a lens on it and the images were fine. So I'm assuming the tube length is compatible. 22mm is quite a difference but who knows. I have an intact Copal Press no.1 and this one is 20.0mm.
 

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Moderator note: @Steve Goldstein we were notified that your for-sale classified has turned into a bit of a technical discussion. If you want us to split the discussion off into a separate thread so that your ad remains more focused, please don't hesitate to ask.
 
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Hey gang, remember me? I’m the guy who started this For Sale thread to sell a pair of lens cells. If you want to have a technical discussion about shutter differences it might be more appropriate to start a thread for that purpose in the Large Format sub-forum under Analog Equipment. Or just buy these cells so I can lock this thread.
 
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