777developer

[Alan Pickering]

Is it available in the UK? Tried bluepackaging in usa with 'undeliverable' message!

 

[voceumana]

It is bluegrass packaging, but I can't find an email address for them, just a website: http://www.bluegrasspackaging.com/

 

[Alan Johnson]

They only made one post here, 3 years ago:
(there was a url link here which no longer exists)

 

[Gerald C Koch]

Even if you can get it (which is a very big IF) it is available only in a 3 gallon size and uses a dedicated repleashisher also 3 gallon size. So the product is quite pricey. It is intended for MF or LF film development in a deep tank. It is best when used on a continuous basis that is every few days. It is proprietary product and so the composition is not revealed so it is incorrect to refer to it as 777. There is another developer called the Germain 777 which is only somewhat related. It's name is the Harvey Panthermic 777 developer to avoid confusion.

 

[Harry Stevens]

You would think some devil would have made a 666 developer........

 

[removed account4]

It is proprietary product and so the composition is not revealed so it is incorrect to refer to it as 777.

hey gerald

bluegrass packaging in kentucky bought the proprietary formula and it is the original formulation of
harold harvey's panthermic 777 ( / defender 777-D ) developer... the formulary kit isn't ...

OP if you can't get it from bluegrass, and you don't mind a faux clone
there is a recipe here: http://unblinkingeye.com/Articles/Harvey/harvey.html
and you can get the "kit" from the formulary in montana : photoformulary.com
they make glycin at the formulary ( it's one of the componants in the unblinking eye formula )

 

[Gerald C Koch]

hey gerald

bluegrass packaging in kentucky bought the proprietary formula and it is the original formulation of
harold harvey's panthermic 777 ( / defender 777-D ) developer... the formulary kit isn't ...

OP if you can't get it from bluegrass, and you don't mind a faux clone
there is a recipe here: http://unblinkingeye.com/Articles/Harvey/harvey.html
and you can get the "kit" from the formulary in montana : photoformulary.com
they make glycin at the formulary ( it's one of the componants in the unblinking eye formula )

Hi John,

Three pieces of information that I have gleaned users. First is the smell which points strongly to paraphenylenediamine. It is described as "medicinal but pleasant." Second is the observation that not all of the developer dissolves. People have observed silver scales floating in the mixed developer. This indicates the use of Gycin which has a rather low solubility in sulfite solutions. I could be wrong and Bluegrass maintains that the developer does not contain Glycin however I cannot explain the observation without its presence. None of the other common developing agents fit the observation. Third none of the other formulas suggested like Edwal 12 and the Germain developer produce exactly the same results as the Harvey formula. Close but no cigar.

From statements from the person or persons who mix up the kit they have little understanding of photo chemistry. Bluegrass isn't really in the developer business. Glycin is a tradename and if they buy with the chemical name then to them the formula does not contain Glycin. Anyway, all in all an interesting saga.

 

[removed account4]

Hi John,

Three pieces of information that I have gleaned users. First is the smell which points strongly to paraphenylenediamine. It is described as "medicinal but pleasant." Second is the observation that not all of the developer dissolves. People have observed silver scales floating in the mixed developer. This indicates the use of Gycin which has a rather low solubility in sulfite solutions. I could be wrong and Bluegrass maintains that the developer does not contain Glycin however I cannot explain the observation without its presence. None of the other common developing agents fit the observation. Third none of the other formulas suggested like Edwal 12 and the Germain developer produce exactly the same results as the Harvey formula. Close but no cigar.

From statements from the person or persons who mix up the kit they have little understanding of photo chemistry. Bluegrass isn't really in the developer business. Glycin is a tradename and if they buy with the chemical name then to them the formula does not contain Glycin. Anyway, all in all an interesting saga.

yeah , i know what you mean gerald
i've never used it, i've only gone by what others have said
.. and
things read, so my experience is more than limited ...
i remember talking with the lady at bluegrass who mixes it up ..
and when i asked her about the recipe she laughed and said
she couldnt' tell me cause it was a secret recipe and then she told me
" that website is waaaaaaay off " ( website meaning the unblinking eye article i linked to )
i guess it's one of the great mysteries: the sphinx, hanging gardens of babylon, lighthouse at alexandria
colossus of rhodes and harvey's panthermic 777

 

[Alan Johnson]

Some of the mysteries are discussed down the page in Kenny E's blog:
http://adfasi.blogspot.co.uk/search?updated-max=2014-07-22T04:22:00-07:00&max-results=7
777a and 777b have 5 developing agents and appear to require a vacuum dryer to produce the powder.
It seems of academic interest only, as PPD appears available only as an expensive material for use in biology now and the mixing process hazardous.