35mm Film canisters?

[ann]

hi,

i have a whole box of old caritages that i bought several years ago for my students who at the time where bulk loading.

It has never been opened , has a 100 carnisters. Bought several of these from the same source and we used all but this container.
If interested pm me and i will be glad to sell them to you for what i paid.

 

[copake_ham]

I don't understand what you're driving at?

Reusable dedicated cartridges from someone like Freestyle is environmentally-sound. So is the fact that nowadays the drugstore film processors recycle regular 35mm cans rather than put them into the waste stream.

 

[Paul Verizzo]

Luke, Copake

Sorry if I wasn't crystal clear.

To reuse the staked carts, you just have to be very gentle with the can opener; a little here, move over, a little more, until it comes off. It's not rocket science, just a bit of care. One can easily tell if the cap is in place firmly or not.

I'm not sure what buying Freestyle carts vs. picking up free ones is about. I'm on a very tight budget and if I could shift the $15 for carts to film, well, that is fine with me.

The film processors do not open the carts, they merely cut the film 1/2" or so from the end. So, one is not dealing with opened carts. They do recycle them, as I found, but so do I.........

 

[copake_ham]

Actually, you "re-use" while they "recycle".

My suggestion would be to strike up a relationship with a few W-G, CVS and Rite Aid photo guys etc. Give them your 2-gallon baggies, ask them to save a bunch and then come back a week or two later to collect your "booty".

If you ask them to set the cans aside and give them the bag to put them in - then you'll probably get what you want.

Elsewise, they'll just follow "corporate rules" and dump them into the recycling bucket as instructed.

 

[DannL]

You should show demand for supplies such as these, otherwise vendors may quit stocking them, followed by suppliers not shipping, followed by manufactures not producing. And ultimately this could ripple through other product lines, to include bulk films. By now I'm sure you may have spent more than $14.50 in time alone researching sources of reloadable cartridges. Don't underestimate the value of your time. I do it all the time . . . spending gobs to figure out a solution to save $10. Maybe it's a good time to switch to Medium Format? You might find yourself shooting less and there's no cartridges.

 

[JBrunner]

By now I'm sure you may have spent more than $14.50 in time alone researching sources of reloadable cartridges. Don't underestimate the value of your time. I do it all the time . . . spending gobs to figure out a solution to save $10. Maybe it's a good time to switch to Medium Format? You might find yourself shooting less and there's no cartridges.

Tru dat, but that all depends on what your free time is worth. Partly personal, part economics. Many things I pay money not to deal with, other things, I might do myself, cost benefit aside.

As far as shooting less, that is an interesting aside- Like many, I started with 35mm, and progressed through on up to 8x10 (currently, 11x14 is in the works) What I have found is that film costs tend to remain fairly constant, and that give or take, I tend to spend about the same amount of money for film on a given day, because I might shoot two or three rolls of 35mm, on that sort of day, or maybe four to six sheets of 8x10.

Many persons seem to object to larger film formats, based on film cost, but in the aggregate, it comes out in the wash of the slower more methodical approach to MF, and then LF. It's not like you are going to grab the 8x10 and go shoot 36 exposures in an outing. (End OT)

Back OT, you can check with Right Aid, or any other stores that have 1hour processing, you might have to hit a few, but sooner or later you'll find someone sympathetic to your cause.

 

[Phillip P. Dimor]

I used to work at a one-hour photo lab. Every day we'd have anywhere from 50-150 rolls of film. I'd often tape my film onto the end of cut film and wind it back in. I gave up on the reloadable cartridges as they were a pain to keep clean. Most rolls were very, very clean. I'm not sure about the Fuji Frontier machines, but Noritsu's cut the film and dump the cartridge with 1" of film sticking out of the light trap. We had a huge bin that we'd dump the cans into. Find a small local lab if possible and ask that they set them aside.

I knew a guy would would come in for the 120 spools and paper backing. He would cut lengths of 70mm film and tape it onto the paper and cut the edges that hang off.. (i've done it, it's a PITA but easier if you have some orthochromatic stuff to work with under a safelight)

 

[copake_ham]

Geez - I hope I never get so desperate to save a few $ - but if you need to do so - here's a current listing on eBay you might want to grab:

http://cgi.ebay.com/35MM-reloadable...ryZ74917QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

 

[David A. Goldfarb]

Ilford cartridges used to be reusable, and they were better than the reusable cartridges you could buy. Those were the days...

 

[DannL]

. . . To add to what David mentioned, the Efke and Lucky 35mm cartridges appear to be reusable, also. The tops are lightly pressed on, and come off easily with just a little thumb pressure. They snap back on securely.

Paul, I have 14 of these empty cartridges if you want them. Only used once, never reloaded, like new. PM an address and I'll ship them out.

 

[IloveTLRs]

I bought some plastic & metal 35mm canisters from a company called HAMA (maybe they're Japanese.) For $10 I got a package of 5 canisters.
They're great ... except the plastic ones don't fit in my CL or M3, which is a pain since I use them like, a lot. Other than that, rolling my own film is quite nice since I don't have to trek to the store anymore.

Too bad Fuji doesn't do bulk anymore ...

 

[PhotoJim]

Ilford cartridges used to be reusable, and they were better than the reusable cartridges you could buy. Those were the days...

Those were the days... except for the day I was shooting such a roll and I dropped one after rewinding, and the cartridge end popped off, ruining my roll.

I actually still have one of those old Ilford cartridges that I use for bulk loading. It's so old it was from a 135-20 of HP5, pre-DX days too of course. I rather liked the 20-exposure rolls, but this must be entirely nostalgia speaking since I shoot 36-exposure rolls nearly exclusively. (Even the local minilab where I get my C41 film done wonders where I get them from [B&H or Adorama, for the record] since they are impossible to get locally except in professional emulsions).

 

[David A. Goldfarb]

Four threads on 35mm film canisters for bulk loading merged.

 

[Whiteymorange]

I have a lot of extra Kodak cannisters - the old solid, non DX-coded ones in metal cans - just right for you re-loaders. Since I don't roll my own very often, I'll gladly send a dozen of them to each of the first three people who PM me with an address. I'd like to get the postage paid, of course - otherwise, no charge. They're in good shape and haven't been out of storage since... I don't know, the 60's? Spread the wealth.

 

[Stephen Frizza]

I tell you what is one of my pet hates ....people who load black and white film into empty Kodak gold film canisters and the like and don't tell you the material is not what is indicated by the canister but rather a different bulk loaded material. I don't understand why people ask em to process this and don't tell me what they have done. thank god i most often look at the film emulsion and if it looks odd question it before processing!!!

~Steve
The Lighthouse Lab

 

[Paul Verizzo]

Allan,

Imagine you have removed both ends of a metal cassette, and look down the hollow. The more recent ones have the velvet light trap positioned tangentially to the main cylinder, but for some earlier Agfa and Ilford (perhaps others) cassettes, the light trap is at an angle to the cylinder, where the film has to emerge out of the coil after negotiating a small reverse kink.

The British photography writer A.M. Carlsson first noticed the adverse effect of cassettes not allowing the film to emerge tangentially. After leaving the film in that kink for a while (overnight or longer perhaps), the film will develop a reverse bend that cannot be flattened out by the pressure plate. So you will see the following happening:

After you have started a film, you put your camera aside overnight, and then when you wind on again, the piece of film with the bend will be in the film gate, but since the film is not flat, you will see a vertical band where sharpness is lost. This is particularly obvious when you are photographing at infinity, where the distance between the lens and the film is actually less than what it takes to achieve infinity focus. But this can only happen during the first half of the film; as the coil of film gets smaller in diameter, the angle of the velvet light trap becomes progressively more tangential, therefore no longer putting that bend on the film.

For me I still use those older cassettes, but since I shoot off a roll quite rapidly I do not have much of a chance to let the bend to set in anyway.

I have a dozen or two of those Ilford carts that I got 15 years ago from Freestyle. I always thought that non-tangential exit a bit weird, but HEY, they're Ilford!

Guess I'll stick with reusing the China Pan 100 carts! (And others.)