33 years of exposure to light and the elements will do this to your film...

Bushland Stairway

Bushland Stairway

  • 3
  • 1
  • 42
Rouse st

A
Rouse st

  • 6
  • 3
  • 85
Do-Over Decor

A
Do-Over Decor

  • 1
  • 1
  • 103
Oak

A
Oak

  • 1
  • 0
  • 80

Recent Classifieds

Forum statistics

Threads
199,234
Messages
2,788,330
Members
99,837
Latest member
Agelaius
Recent bookmarks
0

mooseontheloose

Moderator
Joined
Sep 20, 2007
Messages
4,110
Location
Kyoto, Japan
Format
Multi Format
...aka, my visit to the Chernobyl Exclusion zone. While visiting one of the community centres, I came across this small room that had dozens of mostly uncut negatives strewn throughout the floor. It looks to be colour film, possibly motion picture? - I didn't want to get too close as officially we were not allowed to be inside the building, nor to touch anything. I'm sure it was fine, but if you set off the sensors when going through the security checks, it can lead to some awkward questions as to where you've been. Anyway, I wasn't sure exactly where to post this, but this seems like as good a place as any:

Chernobyl-Film-06.jpg
Chernobyl-Film-05.jpg
Chernobyl-Film-04.jpg
Chernobyl-Film-03.jpg
Chernobyl-Film-02.jpg
Chernobyl-Film-01.jpg
 

Rudeofus

Member
Joined
Aug 13, 2009
Messages
5,081
Location
EU
Format
Medium Format
Wow. Just wow ...

The first line of your signature is what you just did. The second line of your signature won't happen, because this stuff is radio active :-(
 

Kino

Subscriber
Joined
Jan 20, 2006
Messages
7,775
Location
Orange, Virginia
Format
Multi Format
Yes, it looks like a 35mm color release print that's seen much better days...
 

Theo Sulphate

Member
Joined
Jul 3, 2014
Messages
6,489
Location
Gig Harbor
Format
Multi Format
Being that the city was evacuated quickly and no one returned, except by scientists and, later, "tourists", why does the room appear to be ransacked?
 

trendland

Member
Joined
Mar 16, 2012
Messages
3,398
Format
Medium Format
...aka, my visit to the Chernobyl Exclusion zone. While visiting one of the community centres, I came across this small room that had dozens of mostly uncut negatives strewn throughout the floor. It looks to be colour film, possibly motion picture? - I didn't want to get too close as officially we were not allowed to be inside the building, nor to touch anything. I'm sure it was fine, but if you set off the sensors when going through the security checks, it can lead to some awkward questions as to where you've been. Anyway, I wasn't sure exactly where to post this, but this seems like as good a place as any:
Guess you now have the dosis of 75 xrays at your doctors check up - no problem !
Guess you were alowed just to 2 hours max to stay in zone near Tschernobyl ground zero !
Guess you were not allowed there for camping holyday 2 weeks within a radius of 70 miles around
(Restricted zone for foreigners)!
with regards
 

pentaxuser

Member
Joined
May 9, 2005
Messages
20,022
Location
Daventry, No
Format
35mm
Wow. Just wow ...

The first line of your signature is what you just did. The second line of your signature won't happen, because this stuff is radio active :-(
It didn't to Mickey Rooney any harm in the "Atomic Kid" He kept on emptying the slot machines at Las Vegas without even playing them :D

P.S. He was called Blix Waterberry and not, please note, Bleach and Fix Waterberry:D

pentaxuser
 
OP
OP
mooseontheloose

mooseontheloose

Moderator
Joined
Sep 20, 2007
Messages
4,110
Location
Kyoto, Japan
Format
Multi Format
Just to dispel some misconceptions - I did plenty of homework before coming here, so knew exactly what risks I was taking (ie. very little). It’s been almost 33 years since the accident and the background radiation levels in most of the exclusion zone (both.10km and 30km) are the same as most places around the world - about 0.12-0.18 microsieverts per hour. There are of course some hots spots (like the former red forest which was razed to the ground and buried) but our Geiger counters would automatically start beeping if we hit those areas. There are random hot spots all over the place, but mostly outside. When people evacuated they were told to close all windows and doors to limit contamination and it worked - in some areas we went to the outside readings were a little high, but inside the buildings they went back to normal. Of course, over the years there’s been a lot of looting and “visitors” move things around to get more atmospheric shots. One problem is of so-called “stalkers” - people inspired by the video game who sneak in at night, travel over heavily-irradiated ground, and move heavily-irradiated items from safe storage to normal areas. For example, the firemen who fought the fires the night of the blast were seriously irradiated and their uniforms were put in the hospital basement, where they’ve been left all this time - it remains one of the most irradiated areas in Pripyat, and nobody goes there. But “stalkers” go there for thrills, and someone brought a fireman’s helmet to the main floor. Of course, no one knew about this until their scanners started going crazy and/or they failed to pass the security check (which happened to my guide). That said, I had none of those problems while there, including after eating some delicious dishes made by the self-settlers from the food that they grow (including some strong homemade vodka made from apples). They’ve been there 30+ years and are doing fine. In fact, a study showed that people who returned (illegally of course) had longer life expectancies than those who permanently stayed away after evacuation. There aren’t many settlers left - out of 1000+ who came back, only a little over 100 remain, mostly because they’re all getting old (the babushkas I visited were all in their 80s).

I spent 4 days here - about 6-8 hours a day in the 10km exclusion zone where nobody lives but some people work, and stayed overnight in the Chernobyl Town, which is in the greater 30km zone, and where some workers stay during their work terms (4 or 14 days, depending on the work). Everyday we passed through a scanner to measure any contamination we may have had, we were clean the entire time (as are most people). We also had to wear another device that would measure our total radiation over the 4 days, and those were fine too. I also spent half a day at the Chernobyl Nuclear Reactor, which was super interesting. I stood next to Reactor 4 which blew, but of course it was behind several metres of concrete. The readings there were between 6-8 microsieverts per hour, but the cooling towers next door were the worse, at about 18. We didn’t stay in those areas long. The rest of the plant, where 750 work daily, was fine.

Anyway, I shot a lot of film here, which I think should be okay, but I haven’t developed yet. I’ll try to post those images in the gallery once I’ve developed and printed a few.
 
Last edited:

AgX

Member
Joined
Apr 5, 2007
Messages
29,973
Location
Germany
Format
Multi Format
Looks like my ex-neighbours garden - missing some remaining bones of his cat!

There is a diffeence between a place being messy and a place having been vandalized. This one is of the latter type.
 

DREW WILEY

Member
Joined
Jul 14, 2011
Messages
14,096
Format
8x10 Format
Interesting. You might have stumbled onto some new method for archivally preserving film. I don't see any mildew on it !
 
OP
OP
mooseontheloose

mooseontheloose

Moderator
Joined
Sep 20, 2007
Messages
4,110
Location
Kyoto, Japan
Format
Multi Format
Next stop, Fukushima!

I’ve already been! Went there in February before my trip to Europe. Spent time in the red exclusion zone, got to within a couple of kilometres of the Daiichi Power Plant, and visited the deserted town of Okuma, which will be opened next month to anyone who wishes to return there, though after 8 years I don’t see it happening - the other towns in the area are at only 30% of the population pre-disaster. The local primary school nearish to the reactor but in a safe zone has 7 students and twelve teachers. I know they want to rebuild, but it’s hard enough getting people to stay in the countryside regardless, never mind one that was destroyed by two major disasters.
 
OP
OP
mooseontheloose

mooseontheloose

Moderator
Joined
Sep 20, 2007
Messages
4,110
Location
Kyoto, Japan
Format
Multi Format
Interesting. You might have stumbled onto some new method for archivally preserving film. I don't see any mildew on it !

I didn’t either, but perhaps looking at it under a loupe or microscope might show a different story.
 

Rudeofus

Member
Joined
Aug 13, 2009
Messages
5,081
Location
EU
Format
Medium Format
There is a diffeence between a place being messy and a place having been vandalized. This one is of the latter type.
From what I hear some - mostly older - people refused to relocate after the disaster. Those remaining in the area might have taken the opportunity to search for useful items, and were probably not overly careful in their search efforts.
 
OP
OP
mooseontheloose

mooseontheloose

Moderator
Joined
Sep 20, 2007
Messages
4,110
Location
Kyoto, Japan
Format
Multi Format
From what I hear some - mostly older - people refused to relocate after the disaster. Those remaining in the area might have taken the opportunity to search for useful items, and were probably not overly careful in their search efforts.

I don’t think so (although I guess it’s possible). Most of the self-settlers who returned went back to their farms and homes in the villages in the greater Chernobyl area. The roads are really bad here and none of them have vehicles (they walked back from wherever they were evacuated to). They tended to be older people who wanted to return to the land. The looting in Pripyat, which was a purpose built city with no private housing, occurred over many years by other people who saw an opportunity. In fact, my guide told me that because of the looting, efforts were made to go into homes and collect pianos and other valuable items (like TVs), number and label them, and keep them in safe storage until people could return. Of course, that never happened, but he brought me to the buildings where these pianos and TVs were kept. Most of the TVs (and other electronics basically everywhere, from electrical relay boxes in schools to the huge computers at the Duga-1 Array) were stripped of their hardware years ago, and the pianos are in various stages of intactness- some are just dusty, some are missing keys, some have keys but the ebony and ivory are gone, some are just shells with strings. I suppose too, there are people who like to just destroy things because they can, or loot because it was their only alternative. We also went to what are basically vehicle and train graveyards - in both cases, many of the cars/trucks/railcars were overturned so people could get at their parts more easily.

I do have photos of all of these things, but I suppose they are not really appropriate in a colour film thread. I’m currently working on some blog posts of my experiences there, I’ll add links in this thread once I’ve finished.

In the meantime, I highly recommend the documentary , “The Babushkas of Chernobyl” - it shows you what life is like for the self-settlers, what life is like in the exclusion zone now, and a bit about the stalkers (my guide calls them idiots) who sneak into the exclusion zone. Here’s the trailer:


I met a couple of these old ladies. I had no idea about this movie before I traveled to Ukraine, happened to hear about it a week before I went, and was happy to hear that my guide was taking me to meet a few of them (I had asked months ago to meet some of the settlers). Had a great couple of hours with them.
 
Last edited:

removed account4

Subscriber
Joined
Jun 21, 2003
Messages
29,832
Format
Hybrid
What a great series of images, thanks for sharing them Rachelle !
Be careful of your exposure.

John
 
OP
OP
mooseontheloose

mooseontheloose

Moderator
Joined
Sep 20, 2007
Messages
4,110
Location
Kyoto, Japan
Format
Multi Format
OP
OP
mooseontheloose

mooseontheloose

Moderator
Joined
Sep 20, 2007
Messages
4,110
Location
Kyoto, Japan
Format
Multi Format
For those of you concerned about radiation, here's an excellent video that discusses the risks in radioactive places/occupations:



FWIW - This video is a few years old. When I visited Chernobyl, the new sarcophagus was in place with basically halved the background radiation around the Reactor 4 site. When we went to the hospital, we stuck to the upper floors, although I did spend a little time in the front lobby where he started (this is where one of the fireman's helmets was brought up from the basement to be put on the counter by a stalker - although the helmet was removed that area remains a hotspot). I also visited the same areas he went to in Fukushima - the area he was wearing the suit and mask is the town of Okuma, but our readings were much less since it's been 8 years since the disaster, not 3 like when he went. And, as mentioned earlier in this post, this week the government of Japan announced they will be reopening the town next month for inhabitants, so clearly the background radiation levels are now within acceptable limits.
 
Last edited:

warden

Subscriber
Joined
Jul 21, 2009
Messages
3,076
Location
Philadelphia
Format
Medium Format
What an interesting visit and photographic project, Rachelle. I look forward to learning more!
 

Vaughn

Subscriber
Joined
Dec 13, 2006
Messages
10,124
Location
Humboldt Co.
Format
Large Format
Probably safety training films...
 
Photrio.com contains affiliate links to products. We may receive a commission for purchases made through these links.
To read our full affiliate disclosure statement please click Here.

PHOTRIO PARTNERS EQUALLY FUNDING OUR COMMUNITY:



Ilford ADOX Freestyle Photographic Stearman Press Weldon Color Lab Blue Moon Camera & Machine
Top Bottom