I wonder how businesses in China evaluate or consider issues like return on capital and cost of capital?
It is those issues that serve as the biggest barrier against 220 for the potential outside China manufacturers.
If, as has been hinted at, this is subsidized and/or fully supported by the Chinese government because they see film production (for some reason including 220) as critical industry, return on investment, return on equity, etc. mean effectively nothing -- just as they mean almost nothing to the Air Force (though they are important to the contractors that develop and manufacture jet fighters and bombers).
I too have been struggling with this.I just can't think of any reason why China would need 220 film. Corner the market for a few guys on Photrio?
Same here. I can understand why Shanghai may make an attempt to set up a small knife and fork operation to make 220 ( the famous little old Chinese ladies using hand tools in the dark analogy ) to establish itself and indicate that it wants to cater for customers in the minority but not why its State backers, should there even be any such backing even in a small way, would want to give it any real practical help in terms of resources . What might this possibly do for the government? Nothing much as I see it and I think we can all probably agree that whatever we think of China it does not foolishly invest resources for little or no returnI too have been struggling with this.
Although I could see them supporting the high quality printing industry and therefore, indirectly, supporting the ability of paper manufacturers to make really fancy paper (like backing paper and leaders and trailers).
Undoubtedly that's it. Either that or during the Great Leap Foward, people took their 220 cameras with them.Perhaps state photographers have 220 cameras and the government wants to limit shots lost during reloads?
I just can't think of any reason why China would need 220 film. Corner the market for a few guys on Photrio?
I too have been struggling with this.
Although I could see them supporting the high quality printing industry and therefore, indirectly, supporting the ability of paper manufacturers to make really fancy paper (like backing paper and leaders and trailers).
Same here. I can understand why Shanghai may make an attempt to set up a small knife and fork operation to make 220 ( the famous little old Chinese ladies using hand tools in the dark analogy ) to establish itself and indicate that it wants to cater for customers in the minority but not why its State backers, should there even be any such backing even in a small way, would want to give it any real practical help in terms of resources . What might this possibly do for the government? Nothing much as I see it and I think we can all probably agree that whatever we think of China it does not foolishly invest resources for little or no return
Mind you were the Chinese government prepared to enter the film market in a big way and become the new Rochester on Yangtze I am not sure how many might have a crisis of conscience and refuse to buy its products
pentaxuser
Anyone notice the prices for 220 film? I have a bunch of Fujifilm NPH 220 and Agfa Optima 220. Always looking for great deals but lately I’ve nice prices on eBay are going way up. Someone asking $44 for a roll ( single ) of Portra 400NC. Box of 5 rolls of NPH for $150. I’ve seen single rolls of Agfa Optima for $20 or more—I bought three boxes of 220 for $90 recently. Who’s shooting 220?
Who’s shooting 220?
For the manufacturer:
- difficulty to manufacture to avoid problems with the film laying flat
Source of this claim?
Yes, recently on this website, someone posted problems with one brand of 220 not feeding correctly. Is that close enough?
I really don't have much use for 220 film anymore, but when I shot weddings I used four 220 'blad backs and that was a Godsend at the time. I only kept one 220 back as a keepsake and for some Fuji 220 Velvia and Fuji negative film I have in cold storage. If I were to buy some Shanghai 220 it would be for my Pentax 6X7's since they are a bit of a pain to load and it would save time that way.
YOu can buy the 220 inserts for nearly nothing. Like 3 for the cost of a single intact 120 insert when you deal with the mamiya 645 1000s
I just can't think of any reason why China would need 220 film. Corner the market for a few guys on Photrio?
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