1980's pushing soup

pdcleven · Jun 18, 2015

Anyone remember a pushing developer that came in small metalized plastic one use pouches. It was mixed at ~100F and also had rubbing alcohol.
I think it was called XP-1 or UD-1 something like that. It was pretty good stuff back then pushing tri-x to 1600 or 3200.

Thanks

Paul

cliveh · Jun 18, 2015

Do we have to use this soup word? Its not a savoury liquid food, its a developer.

Gerald C Koch · Jun 18, 2015

The US Patent 4083722 for Perfection XR-1 gives two formulas one of which may be that of the commercial product. So you have the opportunity to mix your own.

Bob Carnie · Jun 18, 2015

Yes its a great word for us lab rats.

cliveh said:
Do we have to use this soup word? Its not a savoury liquid food, its a developer.

pdeeh · Jun 18, 2015

We should always always refer to it as an exciting liquid, surely?

gone · Jun 18, 2015

I think you'll find it a tantalizing gumbo of ingredients, with just a hint of Hydroquinone. Bon appetit.

You could always mix it up yourself

http://unblinkingeye.com/Articles/XR-1/xr-1.html

or this

PERFECTION XR-1 (Patent - W.A. Anneman, 1978)

Grams Per Liter
Ingredient A B

1-Phenyl-3-Pyrazolidone 1.50 1.75
Hydroquinone 0.50 0.25
P-Methylaminophenolsulfate 0.25 0.25
Sodium Sulfite 30.00 30.00
Borax 0.75 0.50
Water (Distilled) To make 1 liter

BTW, this is similar to Crawleys FX-8 which was;

Crawley's FX-8

Water 700.0 ml
Phenidone 0.25 g
Elon 1.5 g
Hydroquinone 5.0 g
Sod. Sulfite 100 g
Water to make 1.0 L

My own M-22 developer is s split stock that is similar ;

M-22
A

Water 750ml
Phenidone 1.5g
Elon 5.0g
Hydroquinone 10g
Sod. Metabisulfite 25g
Sod. Sulfite 50g
Water to make 1.0L

B

Water 750ml
Sod. Sulfite 50g
Borax 25g
Sod. Metaborate 5g
Water to make 1.0L

Dilute 1:1:8 for normal films

Sirius Glass · Jun 18, 2015

Soup is for eating. Photochemistry is for film and paper. Consuming photochemistry is so not recommended. Time for you to eat humble pie. Jes' sayin'

Alan W · Jun 18, 2015

I'm with Clive,here.Soup?The term always irritates.Good luck with the thread,though.

Mike Crawford · Jun 18, 2015

Bob Carnie said:
Yes its a great word for us lab rats.

'Soup' works for me too. Going back to when every studio had a darkroom with 3 gallon tanks, the developer would be replenished and replenished and replenished. While still very active, it would have quite a murky and cloudy quality, hence the name. Now, being pedantic, surely a one shot developer will be somewhat clearer?

If we are talking about annoying photographic names, nothing is surely worse than calling a Hasselblad a 'Hassy!'

Sirius Glass · Jun 18, 2015

Mike Crawford said:
If we are talking about annoying photographic names, nothing is surely worse than calling a Hasselblad a 'Hassy!'

Soup sounds like poop.

Add photog to the list of annoying photographic names.

Gerald C Koch · Jun 18, 2015

Mike Crawford said:
'Soup' works for me too. Going back to when every studio had a darkroom with 3 gallon tanks, the developer would be replenished and replenished and replenished. While still very active, it would have quite a murky and cloudy quality, hence the name. Now, being pedantic, surely a one shot developer will be somewhat clearer?

So a one-shot is more of a broth than a soup.

Mike Crawford · Jun 19, 2015

Gerald C Koch said:
So a one-shot is more of a broth than a soup.

A consommé of exciting liquid?

David Allen · Jun 19, 2015

Mike Crawford said:
'Soup' works for me too. Going back to when every studio had a darkroom with 3 gallon tanks, the developer would be replenished and replenished and replenished. While still very active, it would have quite a murky and cloudy quality, hence the name. Now, being pedantic, surely a one shot developer will be somewhat clearer?

If we are talking about annoying photographic names, nothing is surely worse than calling a Hasselblad a 'Hassy!'

Yep Mike - I hate 'Hassy' as well - but then I also hate 'soup', 'stewing' film or paper, etc.

Bests,

David.
www.dsallen.de

Ian Grant · Jun 19, 2015

Mike Crawford said:
'Soup' works for me too. Going back to when every studio had a darkroom with 3 gallon tanks, the developer would be replenished and replenished and replenished. While still very active, it would have quite a murky and cloudy quality, hence the name. Now, being pedantic, surely a one shot developer will be somewhat clearer?

If we are talking about annoying photographic names, nothing is surely worse than calling a Hasselblad a 'Hassy!'

It was once a very common term, especially as you say for deep tank work. it'/ /till very apt today.

My pet hate Is recipe for a photographic formula, but then I have a scientific background.

Ian

pdcleven · Jun 19, 2015

Gerald C Koch said:
So a one-shot is more of a broth than a soup.

So a developer mixed from powder is a bullion?

pdeeh · Jun 19, 2015

No that's a bouillon.
Unless you're looking for a silver bullet developer, in which case perhaps it is a bullion ...

Andrew O'Neill · Jun 19, 2015

I don't soup my film. I stew it, then let it simmer for a bit.

Andrew O'Neill · Jun 19, 2015

I've also boiled my film.

Sirius Glass · Jun 19, 2015

pdcleven said:
So a developer mixed from powder is a bullion?

Bull-yon as in calling developer Bull B'yond speakin' d'English more guder.

cliveh · Jun 19, 2015

It's best fried with a little bit of butter and olive oil.

37th Exposure · Jun 23, 2015

cliveh said:
Its not a savoury liquid food......

I'm sure the film thinks it is!

Pat Erson · Jun 24, 2015

Mike Crawford said:
A consommé of exciting liquid?

A liquid aphrodisiac?

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