1700mm f4 Hasselblad lens

[Claire Senft]

Just curious, how many of you have placed an order by now? I am fairly certain that Ole will buy 2 of them.

 

[naturephoto1]

Just curious, how many of you have placed an order by now? I am fairly certain that Ole will buy 2 of them.

Yea, but I want to see him mount it on his 4 X 5 Carbon Infinity or his 5 x 7 Gandolfi.

Rich

 

[nc5p]

I saw a Panavision 100:1 zoom at the NAB last year (didn't go this year). That lens had a problem of bouncing on even a heavy tripod when zoomed all the way. I would imagine this lens has some sort of IS built in or you'd need a stabilized gimbals mount.

This could be for US Fish and Wildlife Service, university, or similar organization. I can't quite imagine a private wildlife photographer being able to justify such an expense, unless they got a contract with a government agency that paid for it. If this is a one off the NRE expenses could go up to or exceed a million.

Doug

 

[David A. Goldfarb]

This is a private wildlife photographer who undoubtedly is a government agency (in the Arabian oil industry sense).

 

[Chan Tran]

Very impressive but then a guy who shoot Nikon Digi only needs a 620mm f/4 for the same angle of view. And the Nikon 600mm f/4 is only $9000 and only 5 kg to carry around.

 

[Ole]

Just curious, how many of you have placed an order by now? I am fairly certain that Ole will buy 2 of them.

Then I would have to buy a Hasselblad, which I'm not intending to do. The 500/5.5 Schneider Göttingen Aerotar is heavy enough for me - and that covers 8x10". What use would I have for a lens that barely covers 6x6cm?

 

[Claire Senft]

What use do you have for a 21mm Skopar which does not cover even 6x4.5?

 

[Ole]

What use do you have for a 21mm Skopar which does not cover even 6x4.5?

It's small, light, wide, and fits a camera that fits in my pocket. I still haven't found an affordable MF folder with superwide lens, and I don't want to butcher my Patent Etui to make that one "superwide".

The Zeiss 1700mm doesn't fit any of my pockets - besides, I like wide lenses, not so much long lenses.

 

[Claire Senft]

I am really thinking that there may be some bs in this thread. I believe that a certain Norwegian moderator, who I do not intend to identify, is not buying this lens because he bought a Carbon Infinity that has such a wimpy front standard that you can make no use of the movements with this lens. I am pretty doggone certain that at f22 this thing will more than cover 4x5. After all it is rated to cover 6x6 wide open at infinity.

Senft first rule of notion:
Vikings should only buy camera built strong enough for Viking usage.

 

[Dan Fromm]

I am really thinking that there may be some bs in this thread. I believe that a certain Norwegian moderator, who I do not intend to identify, is not buying this lens because he bought a Carbon Infinity that has such a wimpy front standard that you can make no use of the movements with this lens. I am pretty doggone certain that at f22 this thing will more than cover 4x5. After all it is rated to cover 6x6 wide open at infinity.

Senft first rule of notion:
Vikings should only buy camera built strong enough for Viking usage.

Ole's practice seems to be, first the camera and then the lens.

Give him time, he'll eventually buy a really strong 8x10 camera that's up to being hung off the end of a refracting telescope and the next thing you know he'll be asking Zeiss for a quotation on making a really long tele lens for it. Or perhaps he'll buy a 2500/12.5 Apo Saphir left over from the French nuclear program, by accident, y'understand, bundled with something he really did want, and have to adapt a camera to it.

 

[Ole]

...Or perhaps he'll buy a 2500/12.5 Apo Saphir left over from the French nuclear program, by accident, y'understand, bundled with something he really did want, and have to adapt a camera to it.

Now that seems more familiar.

I'm trying to get rid of a small stack of stereo plate holders before I'm tempted to get a camera to fit them. And a 14" Petzval lens - going on ebay soon.

 

[Black Dog]

Don't hassle the 'blad!

 

[Roger Hicks]

It was suspended in mid-air at the show, looking like the Fuji blimp.

But there have been bigger. During WW2 Leitz built a 2000/4 for photographing English RADAR installations across the Channel.

Cheers,

R.

 

[Struan Gray]

But there have been bigger. During WW2 Leitz built a 2000/4 for photographing English RADAR installations across the Channel.

Allan Allam of the Daily Express famously constructed a 10' lens using elements from a Plaubel cine lens, and took photos of the occupied French coast in 1943. I don't know the f-number, but the real key was the use of IR film and filters to cut down on haze.

 

[PhotoPete]

What would you do with a 1700mm 6x6 lens?

Zeiss has made at least one for the Hassy.
And it's f4.
But it weighs 564 lbs.

 

[David A. Goldfarb]

As this is the third thread on this topic, I'm going to merge them all into one thread.

 

[Bromo33333]

Well lets think about this little lens.....

1700/4 =425mm or about 16.75 inches...

that would be the diameter of the lens....

what camera would this be for? One would have to have a hoist or block and tackle set up to get it off the ground!

I heard a rumor that it was going to Qatar ... ? I bet there are some truly great nature shots in that region - I LOVE the desert.

 

[Black Dog]

Even Rambo couldn't cart one of these around

 

[David A. Goldfarb]

I heard a rumor that it was going to Qatar ... ? I bet there are some truly great nature shots in that region - I LOVE the desert.

I think that's right. Here's the coat of arms of Qatar--

http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Image:Coat_of_arms_of_Qatar.png

Just downloaded the big image of the lens, and indeed the seal says "State of Qatar."

 

[MarkS]

You'll certainly need a large truck, perhaps a Lamborghini SUV, with stabilizing jacks, and a crew of 2-3 assistants to operate it. I just wonder if we'll ever see any photographs made with this lens? Somehow I doubt it. Perhaps Zeiss will eventually release some test images (they must have field-tested it before announcing it.)

 

[Paul Sorensen]

I am holding out for the f/2.8 myself. No more slow glass for me!

 

[HerrBremerhaven]

I think that's right. Here's the coat of arms of Qatar--

http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Image:Coat_of_arms_of_Qatar.png

Just downloaded the big image of the lens, and indeed the seal says "State of Qatar."

Hello David,

I think you have that one right, and there is good reason to believe that we might now have a good idea of who is the new owner. Around 2002/3 time there was a special commissioned Leica M7 Titanium with five lenses, different in that everything was made from Titanium. There was a nice article about this camera in LFI 6/2003. The new owner of that system is His Excellence Sheikh Saoud Bin Mohammed Bin Ali al-Thani, founding Chairman of the Qatar National Council for Culture, Arts & Heritage. Seems to me he would be the best guess for owning that Zeiss monster lens.

Ciao!

Gordon Moat
Dead Link Removed

 

[Black Dog]

Any chance of an f1 model?