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Ole said:
Built for a client... Arabic script on the side...

My guess is that the Sultan of Brunei has a pack pacyderm ready already!

Could be, Ole, coz the Sultan likes expensive photo gear. From his Palace's windows, he could use the super-tele to shoot proboscis monkeys or crocodiles sunbathing along Brunei river. But the logo on the Zeiss lens besides the Arabic script doesn't look like the Sultan's crest. Besides that, the writing appears to be the Arabic translation of "super tele lens" and the official language in Brunei is not Arabic, but Malay, which is usually written with Latin alphabet nowadays, although sometimes old Arabic script (Jawi) is still used to write Malay.

Cheers,
 
Prior to WWII the German Wehrmacht (Army, Navy & Air Force) were given the job of photographing the Maginot Line to ascertain just how difficult it may be to either defend or assault.

My late father in-law was ordered into the Wehrmacht in the late 1930’s as a photo assistant as he was available and knew how the chemistry of photography worked and was an assistant in the photographic section of an Apotek (?) (Chemist shop).

About 15 years ago on one of my visits to Germany he was in a talkative mood. The conversation swung round to photography; whereupon I learnt that he was an armed forces (Wehrmacht) photographer prior to and during the war.

Pretty much the most interesting thing, was his participation in photographing the Maginot Line. Basically the project consisted of one extremely huge lens, which had been manufactured in Jena. I understand it would have been a Zeiss Objective.

He had pictures of this lens, think of a coffin. The pictures he had, showed 6 men carrying, with difficulty, what looked like a coffin. This was then placed in strategic high places in Germany and then a series of pictures were taken through to France, which was between 12 – 18 kilometres away.

I obviously asked about this camera and lens set-up and was astonished to learn that it had a total length of 1.85 metres. The film used was AGFA 200mm wide colour and B&W aerial roll film. I know this part for a fact, I saw a few rolls of these films in my In-laws hands and looked and held them myself. Colour negative film in 1938!

The camera itself was quite interesting from the description given to me verbally and from the pictures my father in-law had. Apparently the camera had two shutter speeds. The image size was 6x6cm actual, not 55mm x 55mm. The film cartridge had a sliding mechanism, allowing the film to be slid sideways in one of three positions, thereby getting three pictures side by side on the 200mm wide film. There was no dark slide; the back lived in a big light tight box.

Now for the really interesting bit:- the lens was a 1.7m f5.6

Whilst I realise that Carl Zeiss Jena and the modern Zeiss Company are not really related, it is rather interesting.

As I write this my wife is flying to Germany to visit her mother, I will ask her if she can find the shoebox of pictures her father showed us that day. We may be able to see a picture of another great lens.

Mick.
 
Ole said:
Built for a client... Arabic script on the side...

My guess is that the Sultan of Brunei has a pack pacyderm ready already!

Is he an APUGGER ?
 
More importantly, is he a subscriber?
 
A 11" 2800mm F10 CS scope with a reducer would be F6.3 and 1764mm and weighs about 30# and 24" long. The tripod head and weights weigh another 120#.

So what sort of tripod would you need for a 1700mm F4 lens that weighs 500+ pounds.

A boom truck to mount it and a concrete pier should work.
 
Will I be able to take it through airport security? Any recommendations for a backpack!
 
naturephoto1 said:
I'm sure if you can lift the lens a backpack can be made for it. Getting the lens through airport security and on to plane could be a bit of a major problem. :wink: :D

Rich


Beings it could be taken for a 500 pound bunker buster, I think you may be right Rich!

:D
 
How is this for a MF lens?

http://www.engadget.com/2006/09/13/carl-zeiss-creates-over-five-foot-long-telephoto-lens/

Wow..

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Yup, thats that 1700mm f/4 secret weapon that ziess is comming out with, it is actually a 500lb bunker buster bomb!

LOL

:D
 
naturephoto1 said:
Not very field practical. :wink: :D

Rich

I heard that!!! My 800mm f/5.6 is a monster, so much so, that it rarely gets used..

Dp
 
Dave Parker said:
I heard that!!! My 800mm f/5.6 is a monster, so much so, that it rarely gets used..

Dp

Hi Dave,

If I could afford the Leica f5.6 800mm Modular Apo Telyt lens that Leica USA loaned to me for a month back in 1998 I would certainly find a use for the 13.5 lb and as I recall about 17.5" length. Unbelievable performer. But with a handle and mix and match parts very flexible, field practical, and functional. In 1998 it was a very by comparison affordable about $15,500.

Rich
 
geeze... wildlife photography my pitootee. Paparazzi is more like it.

That's both a MF (Medium Format) lens and a MF-ing big lens as well!

-KwM-
 
Geeze, Sean, don't you follow APUG?--

(there was a url link here which no longer exists)

Okay, the real prize goes to whoever can identify the crest that follows the Arabic script, which should reveal who commissioned this lens. The Sultan of Brunei is a wildlife photographer, but we've ruled him out. Anyone at Photokina who can get a close look?
 
naturephoto1 said:
Getting the lens through airport security and on to plane could be a bit of a major problem.

Rich,

I guess that if you can afford the lens, you should have your own private jet to carry it (better be an Airbus A380).

Cheers,
 
naturephoto1 said:
I'm sure if you can lift the lens a backpack can be made for it. Getting the lens through airport security and on to plane could be a bit of a major problem. :wink: :D

No, it's just a piece of cargo. Nowadays you can take your car on the plane when they have some space left for it...
 
No need

BOSS565 said:
Will I be able to take it through airport security? Any recommendations for a backpack!
There's no need to worry about airports, the arabic inscription in it says " Osama Bin Laden I.C B.M programme " :rolleyes:
 
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Troy Ammons said:
A 11" 2800mm F10 CS scope with a reducer would be F6.3 and 1764mm and weighs about 30# and 24" long. The tripod head and weights weigh another 120#.

So what sort of tripod would you need for a 1700mm F4 lens that weighs 500+ pounds.

A boom truck to mount it and a concrete pier should work.
What sort of tripod Troy, A f**king big one !
 
It's what you do with it that counts LMSO
 
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