120mm film

[Vaughn]

Why is it UV light and IR radiation, oh wait, that's heat, never mind. Hold on, shouldn't it be IR energy? Nope, that would confuse people into thinking you were talking about the IR light that insects can see, but they see IR heat as well, but we still call it IR radiation...

Again, NASA calls it infrared light -- but then the site I pulled this from is for kids. Insects do not "see" into the infrared part of the spectrum (as far I know), but UV light. It is snakes that can "image" infrared light (heat) stereoscopically.

http://science.hq.nasa.gov/kids/imagers/ems/infrared.html

 

[postalman]

It's all bloody electromagnetic radiation!

 

[wotalegend]

One of my pet peeves on photographic fora is Leica snobs who insist on referring to various official Leica accessories by the cryptic alphabetic product names which Leitz gave them, so that those of us who are less informed have no idea what they are talking about. e.g. IROOA (a lens hood), SHOOC, SBOOI, and SGVOO (apparently all are viewfinders).

 

[2F/2F]

Sorry, folks, for using the term Hassy. It's just a "cute" nickname; not a "hipster" or "beginner" thing, in my case.

Some of my least favorites are:

- 120mm film - It is not 120mm wide
- mixing up of the terms f stop and aperture ("Which aperture do I use?") - one is a physical measurement of the hole made by the diaphragm, and one is a setting that is used on the camera/lens. One will almost never need to know or refer to the "aperture" in terms of it's actual size (macro shooters, maybe).
- "Infrared film is exposed by heat." - One of the teachers I assist says this every G.D. time she teaches the IR portion of the experimental class, and it grates on me like hell, because it is passing absolutely horrible information on to students. But even though I have known her for years, I have not yet figured out a way to politely shatter her lifelong belief.....
- treating green box mode as if it is "program" mode (on a modern camera, of course) - it is not, and you will get totally different results if shooting digital (i.e. no ISO control, no AF control, and no ability to shoot RAW)...and why are you using either of these modes anyhow?
- printing on the back side of a speed easel (so common it makes me sick)
- putting the lens in the enlarger backwards, so you cannot see the f numbers
- buying pre-cut 8x10 mats and expecting your print on 8x10 paper to fit ("Why is there a gap?" or "How do I tape it?)
- "Photography is an art" - No, it isn't. It is a tool/method that has many purposes, one of which is art. Art is art if it is art, not just because it is a photograph (i.e. the technique in and of itself). I realize that this is often supposed to be complimentary, or at least show some sort of pseudo interest/understanding in a conversation, but it really grates. I find it to be a very shallow statement.

Nicknames can sometimes sound stupid, but all but a few just don't grate on me like the totally-inaccurate mixups that can lead to, or be representative of, vast technical or conceptual errors. (I've only seen "'tog" on the Internet, thank gawd!!)

P.S. Oh yeah! And "ATM machine" and "PIN number!!!!"

And let's not forget the diner patron's classic, heard millions of times a day by servers: "A double cheeseburger with cheese."

 

[Michel Hardy-Vallée]

Are there still people afraid of fire when they see film?

It never happened to me, but somehow I dream of telling someone that nitrate film has not been commonly used since the end of WWII, so they can stuff their fire safety concerns somewhere dark.

 

[Sirius Glass]

And let's not forget the diner patron's classic, heard millions of times a day by servers: "A double cheeseburger with cheese."

"Chili con carne with meat, please."

To be repetitive, redundant, and repeating again!

 

[greybeard]

Shooting - What's wrong with photographing? Or taking pictures?

A minor peeve of mine: "shoot" seems to have come from the same place as "snapshot", which was originally a "snap shot" as opposed to one deliberately aimed and fired. Using a gun, not a camera. So, hearing some guy describe how he had his camera out for some shots with his girlfriend makes me wonder A) what exactly did he do to get her that ticked off; B) did she hit the camera, and if so, is it repairable or a total loss? If I'm completely off the mark and they went to a bar, why did he take his camera?

Even more minor: it is properly f/ stop, not F-stop. In somewhat the sense that organs have stops, but in this case with an open area having the indicated mathematical relationship to the focal length. (I wonder how a smart 'phone auto-correct function deals with that....)

 

[Sirius Glass]

Even more minor: it is properly f/ stop, not F-stop.

Don't you really mean f/stop and not f/stop?

 

[lxdude]

"Chili con carne with meat, please."

To be repetitive, redundant, and repeating again!

Or "cheese quesadilla"!

 

[tomalophicon]

Speaking of shooting people with your camera. Pardon the digital content
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=awq90APEVgw

 

[Vaughn]

Well (deep hole in the ground), I guess I'll have to figure what aperture to set on the fast lense of my 120mm Rollie camera when I go out shooting next. I want my glass to make good bokeh but not blow out the highlights. I didn't have much luck with my Cannon last time...maybe my film was too fast.

I am using that infer-red film, so I better make sure my camera does not get too hot in the sun and have the heat fog the film -- or worst, cause the film to catch on fire!

I'll soup the film tomorrow. Hope it comes out okay as I am hoping for an invite to a local 'togs club and I don't want them to think I am a noob.

 

[tomalophicon]

Well (deep hole in the ground), I guess I'll have to figure what aperture to set on the fast lense of my 120mm Rollie camera when I go out shooting next. I want my glass to make good bokeh but not blow out the highlights. I didn't have much luck with my Cannon last time...maybe my film was too fast.

I am using that infer-red film, so I better make sure my camera does not get too hot in the sun and have the heat fog the film -- or worst, cause the film to catch on fire!

I'll soup the film tomorrow. Hope it comes out okay as I am hoping for an invite to a local 'togs club and I don't want them to think I am a noob.

Nice capture!

 

[lxdude]

Speaking of shooting people with your camera. Pardon the digital content
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=awq90APEVgw

Totally unrealistic, IMO. An F3 w/MD-4 jamming like that? Hmmph.

 

[Steve Smith]

I guess I'll have to figure what aperture to set on the fast lense of my 120mm Rollie camera

Don't set it open too much or you will loose the highlight detail.


Steve.

 

[Vaughn]

The last time my highlights got loose they ate my neighbors cat.

 

[Diapositivo]

I know, I know, I often make mistakes of that kind and that's why I typically edit my text many times (I see them only while reading my text again). I should have been more careful on that particular text, though

 

[Thomas Bertilsson]

Welll I think it's because no product can give you "better" tonality, despite what people say: your tones are more or less determined in decreasing order of importance by subject, film spectral sensitivity, filters, exposure, and the interrelation of characteristic curves of film/paper.

I agree. It's a 'summary' that poorly describes just how the tones interrelate. I was just interested to see where you'd go with it. Thanks.

 

[Thomas Bertilsson]

The last time my highlights got loose they ate my neighbors cat.

Good one!

Yet sometimes, highlights are so bad that the best they can do IS to eat the neighbor's cat.

 

[Vaughn]

But it is the shadows I am worried about -- anything could be hiding deep in the carbon blacks...

 

[bblhed]

- "Infrared film is exposed by heat." - One of the teachers I assist says this every G.D. time she teaches the IR portion of the experimental class, and it grates on me like hell, because it is passing absolutely horrible information on to students. But even though I have known her for years, I have not yet figured out a way to politely shatter her lifelong belief.....

Now I'm really going to confuse you here. I design radiation detectors, the good laboratory grade ones, they are basically Digital cameras that see another part of the EM spectrum and you can actually image with some of the more complex array units. one major problem that we have with these units is that we have to IR shield them because they really can see IR heat, never mind that huge chunk of the EM spectrum between IR heat and radiation, it can't see that, but heat is a real problem for us.

Sorry fro saying Digital Camera, oh that reminds me, those have IR light filters on the sensors, but not IR heat shields.

I think this would be a lot less confusing if someone would just split IR into heat and light.

 

[greybeard]

Don't you really mean f/stop and not f/stop?

No, that would be f/stop, wouldn't it?

 

[perkeleellinen]

I forgot my all time favourite:

"Nice treatment"

 

[removed-user-1]

Totally unrealistic, IMO. An F3 w/MD-4 jamming like that? Hmmph.

Agreed. Hilarious video, though! Love the scene of a guy tossing a new film cassette to the F3 shooter in slow motion.

"120mm" film is probably my biggest pet peeve among inaccurate photography jargon and I admit that's why I started reading this thread.

 

[florsaluzzo]

Hi all.. I am new here and I have to say that this post made me laugh a lot! So many I agree with and as I was thinking of the next one that annoys me, there it was posted again!

I would say that I have to things photography related that irritates me big time:
1 - as soon as you say that you are a photographer, the 1st question I get is "what camera do you use?" It irritates me to the point of wanting to rip the head off the other one! My answer from now on is: "I have 9, which one you wanna know?"

2 - the other question I get when the other one is not much into photography but wants to pretend he/she is: "Film or digital?" or as the irish would say "The Philum or The Digihal?"

Seriously, people.......

Seriously

 

[Thomas Bertilsson]

Hi all.. I am new here and I have to say that this post made me laugh a lot! So many I agree with and as I was thinking of the next one that annoys me, there it was posted again!

I would say that I have to things photography related that irritates me big time:
1 - as soon as you say that you are a photographer, the 1st question I get is "what camera do you use?" It irritates me to the point of wanting to rip the head off the other one! My answer from now on is: "I have 9, which one you wanna know?"

2 - the other question I get when the other one is not much into photography but wants to pretend he/she is: "Film or digital?" or as the irish would say "The Philum or The Digihal?"

Seriously, people.......

Seriously

Seriously welcome to the melting pot of Philum photography!

Your observations are so true. The contradiction was made spelled out:

If you buy an expensive grand piano, you become the owner of a grand piano.
But if you buy an expensive digital camera, you somehow become an expert photographer.