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mfohl

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Hello Folks, is anyone aware of a reel for the Paterson system that accepts 110 film?

Thanks in advance,

-- Mark
 

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I haven't seen one, though I have never searched either, but it could be helpful to also look for 16mm reel - as that is the width of 110 film. there might be something, somewhere with that designation instead.

Failing a commercial solution, it is possible to remove the spiral from the wider-tubed of the two reel halves and glue it further down the tube. This depends entirely on which reels you have and what they are made of however, as epoxy doesn't work well all the time. As 110 film is much shorter than 135, you can use all sorts of scrap plastic and so on to support the spiral. Cut a long strip of paper, film-width plus a mm or so, and put it "in" the film channel to support the spiral until it is dried solidly.

I've a plan to modify a Jobo reel in this way for Minox film development, which is to suit a film width of 9,2mm. When that stays glued, and seems to work, I'll be making a post about it.
 

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Sand/dremel/scrape out the center of a jobo 16mm reel and it will fit a paterson column.
 
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Thanks, Folks. Good suggestions.
 

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I made one of these years ago so that I could process 110 size Ektachrome in a King Concept Imagemaker. Take the reel apart and cut the outer sleeve shorter with a hack saw, push the two parts back together and use a peice of 16mm movie film for a spacer and glue the two halves together with clear silicone adhesive. It's ugly but works really well.
 

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Try getting an old paterson universal 3 developing tank. I have two developing tanks; a Johnson Universal for regular use and a Paterson Universal 3, saving it mostly for its ability to be used almost for anything.
 

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I know that this thread is a year old, but I just wanted to show off my recent modification to a Paterson reel to make it ready to develop 110 / 16mm film.
I followed the directions of the lomography link in post #3 above. You have to work slowly and carefully to make everything straight and even. You end up with three pieces: the reel top and bottom, and a locking ring.

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I made one more modification while trimming down the locking ring the 2mm or so that you need to do to make it lock. I added two small tabs to it so the locking ring locks into the top spool. In this way you retain the ability of the spools to do the sliding back and forth for loading, but only move so much before they stop. Just like the original reel. I can't wait to try this all out. No glue, no mess or worry about it falling apart. Viva la experimentor!

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hi mark
i have a yankee system ( similar to patterson ? )
and both adjustable reels go down to 110.
i've also a metal reel ( no idea of the maker, no mark )
 

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I know that this thread is a year old, but I just wanted to show off my recent modification to a Paterson reel to make it ready to develop 110 / 16mm film.

That is similar to the way you can modify Jobo reels for 16mm or minox, no glue needed.
 

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I realize this thread is about plastic reels for Paterson tanks, but it might be good to also state the alternatives...
I always use Paterson tanks for other film formats, but for 110 I found it easier to just get a stainless steel reel (and put that into a small stainless steel tank I happen to have lying around). These steel reels come up for sale on eBay relatively often, no DIY modifications required.
I have seen two different kinds: a Kindermann reel that has the spiral film guides on both sides of the reel (like any other steel reel). And there is one that has the steel spiral only on one side, and just some spokes on the other side. That's apparently to make it easier to load the tiny 110 film in there. And that's also the version I have used. Took a little bit of thinking and experimenting to figure out how to load it, but after the initial learning curve it's easy enough.
 

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As you say 110 stainless steel reels are available. They also accommodate 16 mm film used in Minolta 16 cameras which is what I use them for. These reels are very easy to load as there is a spiral on only one side of the reel. The reels fit the regular 35 mm tanks. To prevent the reel from moving during inversion you will either have to buy two or fashion some sort of spacer.
 
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I use the Yankee system for 110/16mm. It was only a few dollars at a resale store near me. It is not anywhere close to being as nice as a Paterson or my Arista Premium, but it works fine for these small films.
 
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