110 film and it's approximate megapixel count

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LOL exactly !

i never understand these threads. the info is readily available
on wikipEdia who cares what the resolution of film is / might not be
that should be the least of one's worries...

It's the 'complex calculations' that throw people off.
 

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6mp for 35mm film?

Really?

This across the board? 25, 80, 100, 125, 160 etc? Color b&w?
If you are referring to my Photo CD comments, the 6 Mpxs figure is based on total system performance with consumer users - what they actually saw. Film by itself is capable of more.
 

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If you are referring to my Photo CD comments, the 6 Mpxs figure is based on total system performance with consumer users - what they actually saw. Film by itself is capable of more.

Yes, the consumer users
  1. Do not know what they are looking at.
  2. Do not know the difference between a snapshot and a photograph.
  3. Think sharpening software actually shows what is there.
  4. Love to over sharpen.
  5. Love to over saturate.
  6. Don't really care because all they want is selfies.
 

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If you are referring to my Photo CD comments, the 6 Mpxs figure is based on total system performance with consumer users - what they actually saw. Film by itself is capable of more.

Ah, ok.

I scan with a DSLR, some film out resolves what the sensor on my elderly camera can resolve. 18mp makes for a fine photograph but I've scanned with larger sensors and it does look better.
 
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35 mm film holds up out to 18mp or so with fine grain film and good scans. 110 with good optics around 4 or 5
 
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No, they aren't.

You buy a 24MP DSLR and it has 24 million sensors, between red, green and blue. No more. The image is produced by demosaicing which gives less resolution. And the anti-alias filter in front will smear details on its own.

I've owned camera without the anti-alias filter, it gives much greater resolution but also opens up the possibility of very ugly, nasty color artifacts.

Cameras like the Sigmas with the foveon sensor have no Bayer mosaic, but the manufacturer exxagerates the pixel count. A sigma camera of, say, true 14MP, is advetised as 42MP: "14+14+14 megapixels" (one for each color). But this one will give true 14MP of detail.
I thought each one had a sensor for red, green, blue and one for luminance values. That's what was so good about the leica monochrom- each sensor only recorded luminance value- or so i remember watching on youtube anyways....
 

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I thought each one had a sensor for red, green, blue and one for luminance values. That's what was so good about the leica monochrom- each sensor only recorded luminance value- or so i remember watching on youtube anyways....


Each pixel consists of one red, one blue and two green cells, each of which is much larger than film grain. Therefore equating film to megapixels is megabullshit.
 

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Each pixel consists of one red, one blue and two green cells, each of which is much larger than film grain. Therefore equating film to megapixels is megabullshit.
And you have to distinguish between individual film grains and clumps of grains, adding to the intrigue.
 

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And you have to distinguish between individual film grains and clumps of grains, adding to the intrigue.

But still much smaller that the best pixels of today's equipment.
 

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Sony has a new 48mpixel cellphone sensor using quad-bayer tech. The chip is $27 and will be in phones next year.

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Better low light performance than existing sensors as well. Maybe soon all those blurry UFO pics will start to look sharp :tongue:
 

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View attachment 204946 35 mm film holds up out to 18mp or so with fine grain film and good scans. 110 with good optics around 4 or 5
What scanner? You'll need to scan at much higher resolutions to avoid grain aliasing, even with Velvia.
Notice how the blue in the rivers is distinguished on film, where on digital it's interpolated out of existence.

"Quad-bayer"?! BS! that is just plain old pixel merging to get less noise. Has been done on many digital cameras for years.
Bisecting a small chip like that, will always be a recipe for subpar low light performance.
 
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