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  1. Agulliver

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    New Kodak Film in 2021?

    The super 8 camera is still listed on their web page and as recently as 2018 there were prototypes being tested in the wild. It is plausible that the pandemic halted work on this, as Kodak weren't actually manufacturing it themselves. Wasn't it Logmar? We do need a basic understanding of how...
  2. dutchsteammachine

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    New Kodak Film in 2021?

    Hold up... we haven't heard about the elusive new S8 camera for years. Pretty much everyone accepts it as something that died... silently. Kodak just stopped talking about it. Last thing I saw were some skateboard videos from 2018 I think. Can you tell us anymore at all? How do they perform? Is...
  3. Adrian Bacon

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    New Kodak Film in 2021?

    I'd take gold 200 in 120 in a heartbeat, though I'm doubtful as outside of Lomography, they haven't had any consumer grade films in 120. BW would be easier to get to 120. I'd take P3200 in 120 in a heartbeat as well, HIE would be nice, as would plus-x. I'd love to see P3200 in 4x5 sheet...

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    Kodak XTOL trade concern announcment

    Matt, this makes even less sense to me. Sino Promise, unless they plan to ditch their new Photo Chem purchase, would be the ones most likely to reassure customers. They are the ones with skin in the game, not KA. I don't believe after purchasing a photo chem division Sino Promises doesn't...

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    Kodak XTOL trade concern announcment

    yea I can see that concern too, but I guess we are living in the future ...
  6. MattKing

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    Kodak XTOL trade concern announcment

    ...is simply that they would be less likely to understand the import to the end user of what they included in the cryptic December 22, 2020 Facebook post. Someone from the photo chemical division of Kodak Alaris would have been much more likely to either warn or reassure users of film developer.

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    Kodak XTOL trade concern announcment

    yea I can see that... but would it have really been better if they made an announcement that they received emails and concerns from a variety of sources that the developer's chemical formulation has been compromised due to shipping or packaging issues or mixing which in turn produce lackluster...
  8. MattKing

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    Kodak XTOL trade concern announcment

    Sino Promise bought the Kodak chemical and colour paper and photo lab support business from Kodak Alaris - the sale completed in November. That has been made public, although they still haven't confirmed that the black and white chemicals were included (they were). The Kodak Alaris factories in...

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    Kodak XTOL trade concern announcment

    Hi Matt+wyofilm I see exactly the opposite and do not sure why you are concerned. I think it is GOOD and that they seem to be on top of things. MOST people are on FB and they are spreading news fast. I remember the PR Nightmares of the bad 120Film Wrapper, and how it took what seemed like an...

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    Kodak XTOL trade concern announcment

    Perhaps you are right about Sino Promise, but it damn unprofessional. But if what you say is true, then that would suggest Sino Promise has greater dealings with KA than what has been made public.
  11. MattKing

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    Kodak XTOL trade concern announcment

    I think they are very serious. I'm concerned that public relations is now coming from Sino Promise, not the former Kodak Alaris people.

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    New Kodak Film in 2021?

    I was referring to, in the USA, the 1950's 60's 70's when EKCo.had 2 labs in California, 1 in Chicago, Rochester, I can't remember, but I believe there were 6 total. This was before EKCo spun off the processing in the United States to Qualex or whatever it was called. Canada didn't ruin the...
  13. NortheastPhotographic

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    New Kodak Film in 2021?

    True though since Kodak and KA goes hand in hand to some extent I can't help but conflate the two. Good news on the camera, I really hope it comes to market. It's not likely to pull me away from my Beaulieu 4008 ZM, but Super 8 is a wonderful format I wish more people were able to work with.

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    New Kodak Film in 2021?

    The Super 8 Camera and the Super 8 Processing Service are Eastman Kodak and not Kodak Alaris things though. In terms of the camera, the pandemic did quite a bit there, and we actually had the prototype on hands early this year. As far as I understand the pandemic halted the mass production of...

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    New Kodak Film in 2021?

    I think we got it wrong: I meant that it doesn´t matter for which former Kodak subsidiary a current Alaris employee has worked before the chapter 11. That was about them being comitted to film. I fully agree with your point though, the current distribution is unfortunate as there are vast...
  16. Auer

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    Kodak XTOL trade concern announcment

    Thank you. I'll go with Eco Pro.
  17. chriscrawfordphoto

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    d-76 stock how many rolls before replenish or toss

    Its funny that they removed the link to the D-76 PDF, because the links to the tech sheets for HC-110 and Tmax Developer still go to the 2017 versions of those publications despite the "New Formula" announcement on the page where the links are.
  18. MattKing

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    d-76 stock how many rolls before replenish or toss

    Just a warning, Kodak Alaris advised me that that version is out of date, and has been pulled from the website until it can be updated. That link may be a cached version, or maybe it still shows on some of the regional versions of their website. When I access the Kodak Alaris chemical page on...

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    Kodak XTOL trade concern announcment

    ...densities. It is definitely one of my favorite developers. I would suggest you try the EcoPro version of it at this time, given that Kodak Alaris is repeatedly having issues with the manufacture of their product. When and if K/A figures out how to consistently produce the original Xtol, then...

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    Kodak XTOL trade concern announcment

    Yes my feelings as well.We can only hope that SinoPromise realises this issue of consumer confidence and have plans in effect that make the current problem with Xtol( whatever that problem is?) the last chemical problem For anybody based in Europe and the U.K. it would appear that whatever...

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    New Kodak Film in 2021?

    Yes, of course. The larger business structures are complicated though, and in the end it doesnt really matter if it was Kodak Ltd in England or the subsidiary in Canada or Mexico or wherever. The important thing is that people who do care are still working in both companies and the whole affair...
  22. MattKing

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    New Kodak Film in 2021?

    That business, or at least support for it, is now owned by Sino Promise Group - Kodak Alaris just sold it. Eastman Kodak has had nothing to do with anything other than movie labs since the bankruptcy settlement.
  23. MattKing

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    New Kodak Film in 2021?

    More accurately, worked for Eastman or one of its international subsidiaries, like Kodak Limited (UK) or Kodak Canada or ...

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    New Kodak Film in 2021?

    Do you think it´s not worth engaging with? Not meant in any attacking way, I´m just curious. I mean, it´s the only magazine of its kind currently, and it´s a lot of work and comittment publishing a quarterly 100+ page print mag like that, that´s not only filled with portfolios but proper...

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    New Kodak Film in 2021?

    I for one was impressed that a relatively large company like Kodak Alaris are prepared to engage with the Silvergrain Classics magazine. They can hardly reveal trade secrets via Zoom webinar but the effort is much appreciated.

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    New Kodak Film in 2021?

    That´s the biggest nonsense i´ve heard this year. Not only is this an uniformed rambling but it´s insulting to everyone working for Alaris and committed to film. You know, many of those working for Alaris worked for Eastman before and ust transitioned into the new company in 2013. Andy Church...
  27. MattKing

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    New Kodak Film in 2021?

    I think it is more that Kodak Alaris is the marketer and Eastman Kodak is the manufacturer, and that with any introduction of new product, re-introduction of old product, or change to a product, they work collaboratively. Somewhat like Apple and Foxconn.
  28. MattKing

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    New Kodak Film in 2021?

    ...the current, much different environment for storage, shipping and delivery of product. The input on those issues definitely came from Kodak Alaris. Even back in the day, the marketing department of Kodak tended to be where the energy for new product development came from. Kodak Alaris still...
  29. lantau

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    New Kodak Film in 2021?

    Fair enough. But if 7Eleven wants to launch their version of an Alexa speaker (whatever it is correctly called) they will pay someone do develop it and pay a manufacturer to make it. Still, it is 7Eleven who wanted it and for that reason it will happen. EK probably has the capability to create...
  30. MattKing

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    Kodak XTOL trade concern announcment

    I'm not sure about that. I do know that the people in management that I have had contact with at both Eastman Kodak and Kodak Alaris have deep, sometimes multi-generational roots in the film and photo-chemical industries. It is true that they may have been like my dad who spent over a third of...
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