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Recognition, titles: Fostering improvement or vanity and gatekeeping? - e.g. Royal Photographic Society's ARPS and LRPS

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It would be grand IMO if we could glean something about that vocabulary or methodology/approach for analyzing images from the titles and underlying criteria. That's part of what I've tried to uncover, but so far, no cigar, yet. Mind you, I'm torn on the question whether/to what extent the 'greatness' of a work of art can effectively be conveyed in words. I think it's an interesting question in itself; very, very tricky to answer.

Part of your original question was that you didn't know what criteria the examining panel would use to assess a body of work. It appears that they refer to the photographer's 'artist's statement' to gauge the extent to which the entrant has achieved his/her intentions. That seems necessary in such a system, because as we know, not all art appeals to everyone, so it may not be possible for the panel to tell whether the work has failed to communicate visually, or whether they themselves have failed to 'get it'. The big downside, to my mind, is that visual communicators are not necessarily good with language, and there is no reason why they should be. In an ideal world (well, my ideal world, anyway), the photos should speak for themselves - with the caveat that we don't expect them to speak to everyone.

One could alternatively gauge the success of one's photos by feedback or sales. But I wonder how many photographers ever get feedback from unbiased viewers whose sensibility and judgement they trust? Or have the opportunity to exhibit work or get it into an appropriate market? I can see that for some, the RPS does offer a serious option to get their photos evaluated against a graded series of expectations, and thus to develop their ability. From what we've read above, the letters after their name mean far less to participants than the journey itself, and in themselves make little difference to later outcomes, even in the UK.
 
Yeah, absolutely, I agree with what you say and ultimately IMO it boils down to the question whether one is applying a quasi-universal framework of quality norms to a body of work, or tries to understand it within the work's own intrinsic logic. Ultimately I believe it's virtually inevitable that both happen at the same time; I can see signs of both in how the RPS appears to work and that just emphasizes (for me at least) the relevance of these questions.

Also, agreed that the journey is probably of far bigger importance, although that sentiment also underlies the questions I asked initially - if that's the case, is the title as such of relevance? Of course, it's not necessarily a binary yes or no; there's considerable room for nuance. Still, I can very well imagine that any given photographer might earn the title and then decide not to use it because the value was in the journey and they've captured that and incorporated into their practice.
 
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We have localised, recognised titles through the Australian Institute of Professional Photography — ....

Did the AIPP get reborn after its insolvency in 2021? I gather there was a decision to "terminate" the insolvency in 2025 but can't find any other info.

I'd be very cautious about claiming AIPP "titles/awards" (or RPS ones) are better or worse those of any other society or organisation. They probably serve different purposes but that does not make them "better" or "worse" (or "more earned" etc). Also, organisations and standards change over time, making comparisons even more irrelevant.
 
I have put many of my chemical containers on top of other things and wonder if that society might be more relevant.

My office is full of photographic things placed on top of other photographic things ... perhaps we can form a photography branch of the mothership?
 
As a (retired) wildlife biologist, the most important advice I can give to anyone working or camping in the Great Outdoors is ALWAYS to put small things down on top of bigger things - otherwise they get lost. Hey, maybe people like me inspired Monty Python?!!
 
"The International Photography Exhibition is the world’s longest-running contemporary photography exhibition". (This is its 167th year.)


"The shortlist features work from 318 photographers from 41 countries, and explores themes of identity, the environment, relationships, and global cultural issues."

This gives an idea of what the modern RPS does. Definitely not putting things on top of other things!
 
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