Price of Hasselblad 1600F?

[jseffel]

I have the possibility to buy a Hasselblad 1600F with Zeiss Opton 80/2.8. The seller doesnt now what a proper asking price would be. I've tried to Google / Ebay it but doesnt seem to find much. They seem rare.
Not sure if its 100% working though, but the shutter fires and the viewfinder looked good.

What would a fair price be?

 

[Don_ih]

In person, $700. Ebay takes a big chunk of sales prices.
The shutter may fire but there may be other problems.

 

[jseffel]

Thanks!

 

[Sirius Glass]

If there are any problems it is not repairable so plan on it being a shelf queen.

 

[outwest]

I bought one for $100 once. Needed a little TLC as it had been unexercised for a long time. It had the original Kodak lens and also came with the 135 Kodak lens. Beautiful lenses. Later I saw the Zeiss Tessar lens for it that Hasselblad went to when the Kodaks because too expensive and picked it up for a comparison. As much as I like Zeiss Tessars there was no comparison. The Kodak was much better. The later Zeiss non-Tessar lenses for the Hasselblad were better, of course. I ran into some accessory kit to go with the camera and traded it all for a 500CM.

 

[flavio81]

I have the possibility to buy a Hasselblad 1600F with Zeiss Opton 80/2.8. The seller doesnt now what a proper asking price would be. I've tried to Google / Ebay it but doesnt seem to find much. They seem rare.
Not sure if its 100% working though, but the shutter fires and the viewfinder looked good.

What would a fair price be?

They're really way too expensive now.

The soviet Salyut is exactly the same camera, and can be had for much lower prices. And i bet you have more chance to get a properly working Salyut...

All these cameras have a Focal plane shutter with curtain straps being fragile. Plus, of course, lubrication problems. Any of these cameras needs a proper service before usage.

The lens mounts are not identical but very similar -- and the lenses of one system can be made to mount on the other system with minimal modifications.

 

[Sirius Glass]

They're really way too expensive now.

The soviet Salyut is exactly the same camera, and can be had for much lower prices. And i bet you have more chance to get a properly working Salyut...

All these cameras have a Focal plane shutter with curtain straps being fragile. Plus, of course, lubrication problems. Any of these cameras needs a proper service before usage.

The lens mounts are not identical but very similar -- and the lenses of one system can be made to mount on the other system with minimal modifications.

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[flavio81]

Now, to continue my descripiton of the Hasselblad 1600F/Salyut... And to specifically tease mr. Sirius Glass...

The good part was that my Salyut-C cameras, both of them, had dramatically less camera vibration than my friend's (mint, serviced) Hasselblad 500C/M. The difference was easy to feel and both agreed that it was very significant.

No doubt this is due to the rear barn doors (light trap) needed on the 500CM and unnecessary on the focal plane shutter cameras.

My Salyut-C is my smoothest medium format SLR; both the Bronica ETRSi and the Pentax 67 (lol) have more camera vibration.

 

[itsdoable]

In person, $700. Ebay takes a big chunk of sales prices...

$700 for a working 1600f with lens sound pretty good, especially as they are collectors. A Ektar lens would be even better!

...The lens mounts are not identical but very similar -- and the lenses of one system can be made to mount on the other system with minimal modifications.

I'll warn you that the simple modifications are not that simple - the threads are the same, but the Hasselblad mount is deeper, and the threads start deeper. Kiev-88 lenses barely engage the threads, and tend to fall off, where has Hasselblad lenses on a Kiev body will not thread in far enough to reach infinity without some tweaks. There are a few other issues too, I posted them at https://www.photo.net/forums/topic/522571-saluyt-s-kiev-88-lens-on-a-hasselblad-1600f-1000f/

You can switch the lens mount on the body - I replaced the 1000f mount with a Kiev mount - mostly because there are a lot more lenses available for the Kiev-88, and the Hasselblad is a better body. Again, several minor issues, which I documented https://www.photo.net/forums/topic/522166-hasselblad-1000f-salyut-mount-and-back/#comment-5603994

 

[guangong]

I owned a1000F many decades ago, which was introduced to replace the unreliable 1600F, although it was almost equally unreliable. Shutter and winding mechanisms are quirky and delicate. The 1600F deserves a place in a collector’s case because of the superior ergonomics and design concepts of the early Hasselblad cameras. After mine died I used Rollei TLR until arrival of 2000FCM, on which I could still use my Leitz, Zeiss, Kilfitt, and Nikon lenses with adapters. Now awaiting death of 2000FCM, but have successor, a 500CM with Hassy lenses. The success of Hasselblad is due to the way it sits in the hand. Nothing else comes close in MF SLR.
I would not buy a 1600F or 1000F as a user, only as a collectible. The Soviet cameras are 1000F clones. I would save my pennies for a Hasselblad C or after. I bought mine from KEH for a very fair price.

 

[Don_ih]

$700 for a working 1600f with lens sound pretty good, especially as they are collectors.

That's what I was thinking, but I'd consider that a maximum price for it, especially if someone wanted to use it.

 

[jseffel]

Doesnt sound too promising. Think I will skip this one and wait for another medium format camera to show up.