Don't use Shanghai Film, I guess... Did I mess up my Yashica D?

[Huss]

Shanghai 220 film is the worst. Everyone, send me what you have. I will dispose of it appropriately.

 

[Donald Qualls]

Nothing could ever beat the J&C 120 film that I bought a 20 roll box of many years ago - it curled like spring steel when you developed it!
You needed 4 hands and tape to get it into the enlarger's negative carrier!

I shot a few rolls of that, won't argue a bit. I managed to get it developed and scanned, and the images were good, but good grief!

 

[Donald Qualls]

Shanghai 220 film is the worst. Everyone, send me what you have. I will dispose of it appropriately.

Say, I recently, more or less by accident, acquired a Graflex RH20 for 2x3 Graflok mount. I've read some of what you've written about GP3 in 220, but they are the only supplier of fresh 220 film on Earth at this moment (got hopes for Cinestill D400). Is the film still like hand spooled in a gravel pit without gloves?

 

[Huss]

Say, I recently, more or less by accident, acquired a Graflex RH20 for 2x3 Graflok mount. I've read some of what you've written about GP3 in 220, but they are the only supplier of fresh 220 film on Earth at this moment (got hopes for Cinestill D400). Is the film still like hand spooled in a gravel pit without gloves?

They dropped the 400 iso film which had the serious problems. I found the new stuff which is ISO 100 to be very nice. I still wouldn't recommend DF96 monobath as the developer (it works ok at 70, but at 75 it seems to be rough on the emulsion), but as long as you use standard developers no issue.
They are the only supplier at the moment of new 220. I bought it on Amazon for $13/roll, next day free prime shipping.

 

[Donald Qualls]

Nice. I may have to grab a couple rolls this payday or over the next couple (when I have a car to drive and air conditioning again).

 

[Huss]

Nice. I may have to grab a couple rolls this payday or over the next couple (when I have a car to drive and air conditioning again).

If it was 120 film - I most prob wouldn't use it only because there are so many other choices. But it is the only 220 action available and that is huge to me! It turns my Hasselbald into a giant 35mm camera just by the fact that I now get 32 shots per roll! It's a big deal as I shoot a lot at the beach and I really do not want to replace film backs if I don't have to.

 

[Tel]

Have to say that I do miss Ultrafine Ex 400 in 120.

Me too; I really liked it. Still got a partial bulk roll of the 35mm.

 

[RLangham]

Shanghai 220 film is the worst. Everyone, send me what you have. I will dispose of it appropriately.

If I did, I would... never got to try any as my 124g was the only thing I ever owned that would shoot it, and it wouldn't have shot it very well! The only roll (of 120) I ever put through the thing came out with all the frames compressed into about eight inches of film length!

 

[Huss]

If I did, I would... never got to try any as my 124g was the only thing I ever owned that would shoot it, and it wouldn't have shot it very well! The only roll (of 120) I ever put through the thing came out with all the frames compressed into about eight inches of film length!

Yeah, the 124G that I had - briefly - also had film transport issues like that. Returned it to the seller. A shame as I could see the lens was great.

 

[Paul Howell]

I have a 124G, at one time I used a lot of Kodak 220 color for commercial work, my Mamiya Press and Kowa will take 220, at this don't have a need for a long roll. Might get a roll or two and toss into freezer.

 

[Donald Qualls]

Well, I have that RH20, as well as an original RB67 220 6x7 back (in process of conversion to 35 mm, but it would still be easier to put it back to original -- I'm slow). I could, with a little care, shoot 220 in my Kodak Reflex II, though I probably wouldn't bother -- counter goes to 12, so I'd have to reset it along the way (and would be prone to forget to do so after exposing frame 12), and I'd have to tape the red window shutter closed as a reminder. I wish I had one for 6x4.5 on the RB67; getting 32 frames on a medium format SLR sounds awesome.

 

[Marcelo Paniagua]

By the way, no complains for Shangai on 4x5. They came out rather good but just shot a couple of sheets so may had been lucky.

 

[RLangham]

By the way, no complains for Shangai on 4x5. They came out rather good but just shot a couple of sheets so may had been lucky.

I chronically underexposed them on my speed graphic, I think some haze in the lens, but the characteristics of the film were not bad.

 

[summicron1]

It is truly said that quality may cost more but pays for itself several times over in reliability.

This sort of conversation is why I stick to Ilford and to hell with the cost-- I shoot my grandchildren and have no desire to take any chances with cheap film -- if I want strange looking images I can whack the enlarger during an exposure, or something.

 

[Marcelo Paniagua]

Is a good thing to have options

 

[Sirius Glass]

The only times that I had film that torn off the spool except when I pulled to hard on the film advance after I felt the film stop advancing. That was with 35mm film and that was entirely my fault. There is no reason or excuse for Shanghai to cheap out on the very inexpensive tape. Shanghai is so cheap is sounds like hunger newly hatched chicks.

 

[reddesert]

Shanghai or not, also, don't force things. If the film transport on any camera starts to be stiff, there is something wrong and the safe move is to unload the camera in a changing bag.

 

[Sirius Glass]

The only times that I had film that torn off the spool except when I pulled to hard on the film advance after I felt the film stop advancing. That was with 35mm film and that was entirely my fault. There is no reason or excuse for Shanghai to cheap out on the very inexpensive tape. Shanghai is so cheap is sounds like hunger newly hatched chicks.

Shanghai or not, also, don't force things. If the film transport on any camera starts to be stiff, there is something wrong and the safe move is to unload the camera in a changing bag.

Forcing camera equipment is a good way to damage cameras.

 

[Dennis S]

I have been getting impressive results with 35mm Shanghai GP 3 film developed in PMK developer. The latest 100' roll has a expiry date of 2024 so that means it is being manufactured presently as I heard that the city of Shanghai was closed, and some friends were concerned about the film delayed as I wasn't sure if it was manufactured in Shanghai China. Bought it from http://www.shjcfilm.com/ so everything is back to normal

 

[Nokton48]

220 Shanghai twenty rolls. by Nokton48, on Flickr

I just dried four more rolls of the 220 processed in D23 1:1 and I'm still pleased. Negs look great and need to be printed as soon as I have time. Now I have about forty rolls in stock and I'm lovin' it. 220 Rocks

 

[Cinema]

i really liked the look of this film from stuff i saw posted on flickr. so i bought 7 rolls for 30$ but haven't tried any yet. having second thoughts now

 

[Donald Qualls]

Okay, looks like next time I can afford film, I need to order a few rolls of GP3 in 220. Since I've got 220 backs...

 

[Huss]

i really liked the look of this film from stuff i saw posted on flickr. so i bought 7 rolls for 30$ but haven't tried any yet. having second thoughts now

220?

 

[Donald Qualls]

That price almost has to be 120.

 

[Huss]

That price almost has to be 120.

Even at 120 that is crazy cheap.