Hipsters and hasselblads

[Huss]

I used to order my coffee "Regular." That meant some milk and sugar. There were some variations, like "Light and Sweet." This was before we had the word "Barista."

Yup this site definitely repels young people.

 

[grat]

Hey! I'm not repe..... *checks age*... "Oh, crap".

The GX680 just arrived. Wonder what the hipsters would think of it?

 

[Sirius Glass]

Hey! I'm not repe..... *checks age*... "Oh, crap".

The GX680 just arrived. Wonder what the hipsters would think of it?

Forget them! Enjoy the camera.

 

[etn]

I used to order my coffee "Regular." That meant some milk and sugar. There were some variations, like "Light and Sweet." This was before we had the word "Barista."

Does that mean my DSLR is imaginary?

So, your coffee is 87 octane, and your DSLR is the square root of -1 ??!?
Now I am feeding the troll big time

 

[grat]

Actually, I only drink coffee in emergencies. Usually, I drink bubbly antifreeze-- a habit I really ought to give up at my age.

Further, in a way, my DSLR is kind of imaginary-- There are all kinds of articles out there about how the EOS 90D "out-resolves" it's lenses, and it's based on a whole lotta theory-craft about sensor size, airy disks, and diffraction. Those of us who have one just smile, and keep taking pictures.

 

[Arthurwg]

Yup this site definitely repels young people.

Older and Bolder.

 

[bernard_L]

Further, in a way, my DSLR is kind of imaginary

In my view, it is film photography that is imaginary, and that is meant as a positive point. I explain: between the time I press the shutter release and when I see the actual picture coming out of the fixer bath or (God forbid) on a screen, I am free to imagine how great that picture is, how it conveys the feeling of the scene and beyond, etc...
With D*****l, you are confronted instantly with the prosaic truth.

 

[grat]

With D*****l, you are confronted instantly with the prosaic truth.

It's strange for me... With digital, I always have to check the image to know if I got a good picture or not. So far with film, possibly because I'm taking far more time and care, I usually know as soon as I release the shutter, whether it's a good image or not. I guess I'm paying far more attention to things like camera shake, composition, metering, etc., than I do with digital.

 

[cerber0s]

It's strange for me... With digital, I always have to check the image to know if I got a good picture or not. So far with film, possibly because I'm taking far more time and care, I usually know as soon as I release the shutter, whether it's a good image or not. I guess I'm paying far more attention to things like camera shake, composition, metering, etc., than I do with digital.

I'm the same. I don't think I actually take better photos on film but I'm more relaxed. It's kind of liberating not having a display where you can check the results of what you just did. Even when shooting digital now I try to repress the instant gratification monkey in e by turning off the rear display.

 

[Sirius Glass]

I'm the same. I don't think I actually take better photos on film but I'm more relaxed. It's kind of liberating not having a display where you can check the results of what you just did. Even when shooting digital now I try to repress the instant gratification monkey in e by turning off the rear display.

I do not shoot digital because I just can't chimp. I have taken remedial chimpin' classes and I cannot get the hang on looking a computer screen on the back of a camera after every image. It is just so inconvenient and awkward to do. And one has to remember to look at least once after each image. Just so much fuss and bother. Did Matthew Brady open the back of each wet plate to check after each photograph?

 

[cerber0s]

I do not shoot digital because I just can't chimp. I have taken remedial chimpin' classes and I cannot get the hang on looking a computer screen on the back of a camera after every image. It is just so inconvenient and awkward to do. And one has to remember to look at least once after each image. Just so much fuss and bother. Did Matthew Brady open the back of each wet plate to check after each photograph?

I have missed a lot of shots while examining the one I just took. Just got to remember to treat the camera as if it's analog. Down monkey, down!

 

[Cholentpot]

I do not shoot digital because I just can't chimp. I have taken remedial chimpin' classes and I cannot get the hang on looking a computer screen on the back of a camera after every image. It is just so inconvenient and awkward to do. And one has to remember to look at least once after each image. Just so much fuss and bother. Did Matthew Brady open the back of each wet plate to check after each photograph?

I don't chimp on every shot when I'm working. For every set I'll check one or two shots to make sure my composition and lighting is in the ball park.

Many photographers used to do this with Polaroids back in the day.

 

[grat]

I do not shoot digital because I just can't chimp.

I do not chimp. I do occasionally scratch my armpits and throw things at passing onlookers.

I do occasionally check critical focus or for blown highlights. Not taking advantage of tools at your disposal is something no self-respecting primate would do.

 

[Cholentpot]

I do not chimp. I do occasionally scratch my armpits and throw things at passing onlookers.

I do occasionally check critical focus or for blown highlights. Not taking advantage of tools at your disposal is something no self-respecting primate would do.

Meters are for chumps maaan. Also, any focusing aid at all. Guess focus using the on lens calculator, no measuring tape allowed.

 

[cerber0s]

Meters are for chumps maaan. Also, any focusing aid at all. Guess focus using the on lens calculator, no measuring tape allowed.

I know that in calm weatjer I can spit 3 meters, that's a pretty good reference. Plus, it keeps people at a distance

 

[Cholentpot]

I know that in calm weatjer I can spit 3 meters, that's a pretty good reference. Plus, it keeps people at a distance

I'm pretty good with my Signet 50. No meter, no focus. f/8 and crank through the roll just like Grandpa.

 

[cerber0s]

I'm pretty good with my Signet 50. No meter, no focus. f/8 and crank through the roll just like Grandpa.

I'm practicing that with my Rolleiflex, the camera is more than 80 years old and the viewfinder is pretty dark and slow to work with. A CLA might be in place, I don't think it ever had one. It's a miracle it works as well as it does...

 

[NB23]

Change the mirror, an easy 7.50$ fix. Some mirrors on some rolleiflexes become very rotten with time.

Also, depending on which rolleiflex you own, change your focusing screen. An easy DIY 35$ upgrade.

Dim screens kill any joy in shooting. I used to deeply hate my 2.8E because of its screen, I felt like a blindman taking photographs, it was a pathetic experience. Same with my rolleicords.
Ever since I changed the screens, my 120 film consumption quadrupled. Such a joy.

I'm practicing that with my Rolleiflex, the camera is more than 80 years old and the viewfinder is pretty dark and slow to work with. A CLA might be in place, I don't think it ever had one. It's a miracle it works as well as it does...

 

[cerber0s]

Change the mirror, an easy 7.50$ fix. Some mirrors on some rolleiflexes become very rotten with time.

Also, depending on which rolleiflex you own, change your focusing screen. An easy DIY 35$ upgrade.

Dim screens kill any joy in shooting. I used to deeply hate my 2.8E because of its screen, I felt like a blindman taking photographs, it was a pathetic experience. Same with my rolleicords.
Ever since I changed the screens, my 120 film consumption quadrupled. Such a joy.

Thanks!

I've been looking for screens but only found hugely expensive ones. Do you remember which one you used?

Edit: Mine's a pre-war Automat Model 1

 

[NB23]

Definitely change your screen, you won’t believe the difference.

I purchased a few of those, on ebay. Fast shipping. All around very good screen.

Ebay title search: “Rolleiflex TLR Split Image Screen 56x64mm For Non Remove Top Models”

Thanks!

I've been looking for screens but only found hugely expensive ones. Do you remember which one you used?

Edit: Mine's a pre-war Automat Model 1

 

[cerber0s]

Definitely change your screen, you won’t believe the difference.

I purchased a few of those, on ebay. Fast shipping. All around very good screen.

Ebay title search: “Rolleiflex TLR Split Image Screen 56x64mm For Non Remove Top Models”

Excellent! Thanks a lot!

 

[Luckless]

I think it was well over a year since I got my first ITAHB comment while using a Mamiya TLR, but then rarely got them for the last few years.

Then the other weekend I had like five different people stop and ask about my Mamiya TLR Hasselblad... I'm now suspicious of a seniors group trying to troll young photographers in the area.

In my view, it is film photography that is imaginary, and that is meant as a positive point. I explain: between the time I press the shutter release and when I see the actual picture coming out of the fixer bath or (God forbid) on a screen, I am free to imagine how great that picture is, how it conveys the feeling of the scene and beyond, etc...
With D*****l, you are confronted instantly with the prosaic truth.

Given how deep my film backlog is growing, I think mine REALLY counts as imaginary...

It's strange for me... With digital, I always have to check the image to know if I got a good picture or not. So far with film, possibly because I'm taking far more time and care, I usually know as soon as I release the shutter, whether it's a good image or not. I guess I'm paying far more attention to things like camera shake, composition, metering, etc., than I do with digital.

I tend to keep my auto-preview turned off on digital cameras just to save battery life, and to keep it from trying to shine a light in my face after every shot, so maybe I've trained myself to keep my film and digital camera handling fairly similar? But I don't find much of a difference.

When the shutter button clicks I feel like I'm equally confident as to what the image is like with film or digital. Only with digital I can confirm if I was wrong or not right then and there for the most part [those tiny screens never really tell the whole truth of the image however], and have less time to forget details on what exactly I was confident about as compared to when I get around to developing a film negative...

 

[etn]

With D*****l, you are confronted instantly with the prosaic truth.

Unless you are, like me, too lazy or too computer-overloaded to insert your SD card into your PC until weeks later... (10-12 hours a day Monday to Friday on the damn thing certainly doesn't help!)

In my view, it is film photography that is imaginary, and that is meant as a positive point. I explain: between the time I press the shutter release and when I see the actual picture coming out of the fixer bath or (God forbid) on a screen, I am free to imagine how great that picture is, how it conveys the feeling of the scene and beyond, etc...

I envy you... every time I tried to imagine how the picture would look like after processing I ended up disappointed. Not necessarily because the end result was bad (Disclaimer: it often was!) but also because it was just... different than I imagined.
I now try to forget a picture after taking it, to keep the surprise intact when I see it.
This surprise effect more rarely works with digital, though. (but it still does)

 

[NB23]

Today
Him - WOW is this a Rolex?
Me -of course it’s a ROLEX! The best!

 

[Alan Gales]

People on here make fun of the chimpers. I've done it myself.

I will tell you though when taking a photograph of a large group of people I used to take a lot of shots and hope for the best. It seems like someone always moves or closes their eyes at the click of the shutter. Having a digital camera tethered to a laptop sure helps. You can chimp until you get a good photo of everyone in the group.