Was It Sour Cream Or Cottage Cheese? (Casien printing)

[wildbillbugman]

Hello,
Is anyone familiar with a process that uses Dichromate + a dairy product instead of Gum Arabic for colored prints? I heard a talk on this last year but forgot the details.
It was either sour cream or cottage cheese treated with ammonia and aged before being combined with dichromate and pigment. I cannot find notes I took.

 

[Dr Croubie]

dunno, but it sounds tasty

 

[snapguy]

comida

I was thinking that lunch must be interesting at your place.

 

[mike c]

Albumen use's egg whites that close to a dairy farm product. http://www.alternativephotography.com/wp/processes/albumen/albumen-printing


Mike

 

[Vaughn]

Cottage cheese.

 

[wildbillbugman]

Thanks Vaughn,
I hope that was a serious answer to my serious question.

 

[Dr Croubie]

Serious answers? Who wants them?
How about this?

 

[paul_c5x4]

Cottage cheese.

Also came across a method of preparing ammonium caseinate from powdered milk over at unblinkingeye

Interesting alternative to gum - I'll have to give it a go sometime...

 

[Steve Smith]

Albumen use's egg whites that close to a dairy farm product

In what way are eggs anything like a dairy product?

I was surprised a while ago when I gave up dairy products and quite a few people assumed I was also giving up eggs. I have no idea why.


Steve.

 

[markbarendt]

In what way are eggs anything like a dairy product?

I was surprised a while ago when I gave up dairy products and quite a few people assumed I was also giving up eggs. I have no idea why.


Steve.

Grocery stores here in the USA have for many, many, many years put eggs and milk in the "dairy section" therefore us non-farminging Americans sometimes get confused.

 

[Truzi]

Didn't you know eggs come from cows?

Oddly, I've run into similar misunderstandings from people when I tell them I avoid dairy because I'm lactose intolerant. Some just will not accept that an egg is not "dairy" simply because they are grouped together.

 

[Steve Smith]

I try to avoid drinking chicken milk too!


Steve.

 

[dwross]

Hi Bill,

It's cottage cheese (non-fat and rinsed) for the casein.
Here's what I think you remember:
http://www.alternativephotography.com/wp/processes/gum-bichromates/casein-pigment-prints

d

 

[wildbillbugman]

Thanks everyone,
I found the answer I was looking for. The speaker I had in mind is Christina Anderson. She has several articles on casein printing. Her casein source is nonfat cottage cheese. Although powdered milk is used by others. I have tried albumin printing too. But as far as printing on glass, which is all I do, I see no advantage over the silane functional PVA I currently use. Except cost.

 

[wildbillbugman]

Do Orthodox Jews eat eggs with meat? They do not eat dairy with meat.

 

[Vaughn]

Thanks Vaughn,
I hope that was a serious answer to my serious question.

Yes it was, and if I could have remembered the word "casein", I would have mentioned it.

 

[Dr Croubie]

Didn't you know eggs come from cows?

You'd believe that if you saw the size of my chickens...

 

[TheToadMen]

Children from these day and age know for sure that milk comes from the factory, not from a cow and grass .....
And those leaves? That can't be spinach ... spinach is square and creamy.

 

[cliveh]

Everybody knows that mature Stilton gives the best tonal range.

 

[Dr Croubie]

Everybody knows that mature Stilton gives the best tonal range.

But surely it's Roquefort for cooltone, Red Leicester for warmtone?

I'm wondering if there's a difference between 'regular' (lumpy) cottage cheese and 'creamed' cottage cheese. I think the creamed would be smoother, and the regular would have grain 3-6mm across?

 

[Truzi]

The way food is in the U.S. anymore, I'd think you'd have to shop around for a good cottage cheese to try this with. So many shortcuts are taken anymore in food prep.

 

[wildbillbugman]

I have the Final Answer-Platypus. Mammalian Eggs and egg layer milk ! But which should I use ?
Vaughn- If anyone knows the answer ,that would be you.

 

[wildbillbugman]

I have the ANSWERE !-The platypus ! Mammalian eggs and egg layer's milk.
But which do I use ?
Vaughn- If anyone knows the answer, it would be you.

 

[TheToadMen]

I have the ANSWERE !-The platypus ! Mammalian eggs and egg layer's milk.
But which do I use ?
Vaughn- If anyone knows the answer, it would be you.

Mix both and you might invent the first glossy casein print ...

 

[Vaughn]

Platypus eggs are hard to get -- The Aussie McDonalds use them for their Egg McMuffins (with kangaroo bacon, of course).