You know what's wrong with 35mm?

Robert Hall · Jul 13, 2005

Satinsnow said:
Hey be nice now, I have drove quite a few nails with adjustable wrenches! LOL

All formats have there place and I have shot quite a few of them, up to and including 20" x 24"...

Shoot what you shoot and have fun!

Dave

That's my point Dave We've all used a wrench for nails, as well as wishing we had a different format for some given photographic task at some point.

Still, the wrench may get the job done. It's just a tool.

Flotsam · Jul 13, 2005

If you look closely, you can see that Ole has a 35mm back on that camera

I'm a completely unashamed 35mm user. Fully manual SLRs are my weapon of choice. All I have to do to re-affirm my committment is to look at my walls and count the pictures that would have never been taken with a bulkier, slower, less versatile camera. I like to keep a tripod optional, I like to carry a camera wherever I go instead of shooting out of the trunk or planning photo excursions. I regularly use a 4x5 view camera, usually with a rollfilm back, for still life because I need the movements but never thought that my personal style was adapted to the big cameras.

Of course, I am also glad that so many of our Large Format Cousins are out there actively plying their preferred branch of photography. Their results are breathtaking and their efforts are a gift to those who truly enjoy viewing them. Thank goodness analog photography is such a big tent. Something for everyone.

I think that I'll go back to my old sig

garryl · Jul 13, 2005

titrisol said:
Have you tried medium format?

Had a M/S 330 back in the 70's- sold it. Have had a lust for a unaffordable Hassy for years- love those Zeiss lenses. Tried a RB-67 in the 90's- not impressed by the B&Ws,but those Kodachromes...WOW!

Flotsam · Jul 13, 2005

Satinsnow said:
All formats have there place and I have shot quite a few of them, up to and including 20" x 24"...

Shoot what you shoot and have fun!

Dave

I regularly shoot 24x36

Dave Parker · Jul 13, 2005

Nick Zentena said:
The problem with 35mm is it's too heavy. The 450mm lens I'm dreaming about is 290grams. I'd be afraid to even think how heavy a 35mm 450mm lens would be. 300grams? More? I'd tip over with one of those monsters on the front of the camera. Then they go and put the film in metal cans. What's up with that? Isn't the whole setup heavy enough already??? Maybe it's to balance out the weight of the lens. Is that how you keep from tipping over? I'll stick with LF until they can get the weight issue under control.

Well Nick,

I just purchased a 800mm f/5.6, what a freaking Monster, takes great shots, but can be a pain to play with..of course it is the 35mm format for wildlife shooting, for some reason, as I get older, I like the distance between me and the Grizz it offers! LOL

Dave

Andy K · Jul 13, 2005

Come now gentlemen, we all know size doesn't matter!

garryl · Jul 13, 2005

jjstafford said:
Here's looking at you: http://www.minox.org/mhs_contest/suganuma/The%20posture%20to%20take%20in%20minox.jpg

must admitt that it,the picture, does look nice.
Maybe I should get one of those minox cameras shape like a Leica. Then I'd have both covered.

Micheal S- Titrisol? Double dog dare you!

Flotsam · Jul 13, 2005

Satinsnow said:
I like the distance between me and the Grizz it offers! LOL
Dave

C'mon Dave, Be original. I don't think that I've ever seen a fisheye shot of a Grizzley Bear.

Nick Zentena · Jul 13, 2005

Satinsnow said:
Well Nick,

I just purchased a 800mm f/5.6, what a freaking Monster, takes great shots, but can be a pain to play with..of course it is the 35mm format for wildlife shooting, for some reason, as I get older, I like the distance between me and the Grizz it offers! LOL

Dave

I'm not going to ask how heavy that monster is. All I can say is you better hope the kids don't get bored with cow tipping

MattCarey · Jul 13, 2005

Robert Hall said:
Dude, a tool is a tool. Use a hammer for a nail, not an adjustable wrench.

Shooting different formats all have pros and cons. Use the right camera for the right subject/effect. (assuming one has many formats from which to choose)

No--use LF for everything! My B&J press makes a great scuba camera! It's just changing the film holders that is a drag.

Matt
(who has much more 35mm gear than MF or LF)

Digidurst · Jul 13, 2005

LOL - you guys are too funny! Of course, you know those gents driving around in those HUGE, gas guzzling trucks... I've always kinda wondered what they were compensating for. <wink, wink> Is it possible that this same phenomenon is happening with cameras??

But I will also admit to loving my Minolta X-700

Foto Ludens · Jul 13, 2005

Honestly, the only thing that's wrong with my Canon T-70 is the rectangular format. I like shooting square more, and I'm still thinking of ways to mask my canon into a 24x24mm. 6x6 is mainly why I moved up to medium format, the amazing quality (and waist level finder) just kept me there. I still shoot 24x36mm, but have a harder time composing in the rectangle. I guess it's just a matter of opinion.

Anyway, If I ever move out of 35mm & MF, it will be for a half frame (24x24) or masked LF...

garryl · Jul 13, 2005

Digidurst said:
LOL - <wink, wink> Is it possible that this same phenomenon is happening with cameras??

I don't know, but it takes them three legs (tripod) to do what we can do on two.

Claire Senft · Jul 13, 2005

Yes but 5 legs are better than 2.

Flotsam · Jul 13, 2005

Digidurst said:
LOL - you guys are too funny! Of course, you know those gents driving around in those HUGE, gas guzzling trucks... I've always kinda wondered what they were compensating for. <wink, wink>

Perhaps that is what this young lady is commenting on http://www.minox.org/mhs_contest/suganuma/The posture to take in minox.jpg

garryl · Jul 13, 2005

Flotsam said:
Perhaps that is what this young lady is commenting on http://www.minox.org/mhs_contest/suganuma/The%20posture%20to%20take%20in%20minox.jpg

ROTFLOL

garryl · Jul 13, 2005

Claire Senft said:
Yes but 5 legs are better than 2.

Only if you are Andreas Feininger.

Claire Senft · Jul 13, 2005

Andreas is no longer with us. Now, start using a tripod or suffer the consequences.

Dan Fromm · Jul 13, 2005

35 has its place. This morning I rose from my sick-bed -- bad cold, you don't want one -- and went to the eastern edge of the Pine Barrens with my wife to look for a couple of rare plants. We even found one of them, Asclepias lanceolata, in bloom.

Took the 35 mm gear because I wasn't up to setting up for close-up flash shots with a Graphic. Some times larger gear is just too cumbersome and slow-working. And since I was shooting KM (freezer's not empty yet) with flash and a MicroNikkor, I get better pictures than I would at the same scale on 2x3 with EPP or EPN. When I want to squeeze more in, then 2x3 wins because I can shoot it at a larger scale than 35 mm.

Horses for courses, as my many times great grandfather used to say.

Graeme Hird · Jul 13, 2005

I'm seeing the self-justifying thoughts of a man with small equipment!

Size does matter - get over it!

student · Jul 13, 2005

Hi.
I went from shooting 6 mp dslr's to 645, to 6x6, to 6x7, to 6x9 (with a few 4x5's thrown in for good measure). I thought 35mm was a waste of time and money. I find that, having shot 35mm for the past 3 weeks or so, that I am able to make great images with this format. I was so preoccupied with detail and tonality, that I forgot the purpose of using a camera in the first place: to make a great image!

I must say, however, that I was not convinced that 35mm was a more than viable medium for me until I got this Contax G outfit. Those zeiss lenses...they ain't human, man! They see things 35mm ain't supposed to see!

I've actually considered trading one of my Blad bodies for a G2...

Flotsam · Jul 13, 2005

I'm seeing the self-justifying thoughts of a man with small equipment!

Size does matter - get over it!

Are we still discussing photography here? :confused:

SuzanneR · Jul 13, 2005

Oh my God!!! What a bizarre thread...

boys and their toys

David · Jul 13, 2005

It's not the size, it's what you do with it (not that I've heard that, of course).

roteague · Jul 13, 2005

Whatever, I'm going out to shoot my Toyo with my brand new Schneider 80mm f4.5 Super Symmar XL lens. And ... I have a fresh box of Velvia QuickLoads to go with it.

You know what's wrong with 35mm?

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