YAXFT (Yet another Xtol failure thread)

polyglot said:

Never use LDPE bottles, especially accordion bottles.

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What's wrong with the accordian style bottles? I've been using those for years with ID-11. They are so convenient for pushing out air after each use. Never had a failure.

Some accordian bottles leak. That is why FreeStyle has reduced its selection. I can no longer get the one gallon accordian bottles.

Sorry about your developer expiration. It is NOT an XTOL premature failure.

analoguey said:

Are yousaying there's noway to know with xtol?
And that soda/water bottles don't serve the purpose reused for storing xtol?

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There is no visual way to tell if Xtol is alive or not. You either make sure it's fresh, or you test it, or you find a container that you know you can trust.

Soda bottles are PETE, which is OK - it's used for soda precisely because it doesn't diffuse gas, otherwise your drinks would go rapidly flat on the shelf. So it's also good at keeping oxygen out.

brian steinberger said:

What's wrong with the accordian style bottles? I've been using those for years with ID-11. They are so convenient for pushing out air after each use. Never had a failure.

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Apart from the fact that they're practically impossible to clean, oxygen diffuses right through them. ID-11 is extremely robust and if you don't keep it for a super long time it won't die in there.

pentaxuser said:

Have a read of posts by Maris or Thomas Bertilsson. Both use this and certainly in Maris' case it has lasted years

pentaxuser

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Thank you, it was indeed upon reading one of the threads where Thomas' posted about replenishment that I thought to try that same method myself. I'll look up other posts.

polyglot said:

Apart from the fact that they're practically impossible to clean, oxygen diffuses right through them. ID-11 is extremely robust and if you don't keep it for a super long time it won't die in there.

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Thanks. I always use my developer in about 2 months. I usually just slosh some hot water in the bottle between batches. Other than that it's always got ID-11 in it.