Yashica FRI counter gear...

beegee675 · Dec 13, 2016

Anyone have any luck replacing the counter gear with something metal or plastic?

pentaxpete · Dec 18, 2016

NO ! When I was Given my FR-1 the frame counter was stuck on 'S' so I have to Guess how many frames I've taken but it gives good, sharp photos .

blockend · Dec 18, 2016

The frame counter on the FR series is notoriously fragile. The counter on mine worked briefly, but sure enough it failed as everyone said it would. It's not a big deal unless you keep a film in for months and forget roughly how many shots you've taken.

Jeff L · Dec 18, 2016

I searched Yashica FR counter gear repair. There's a site that had an article on repairing it. I have not tried it myself. Just FYI.

blockend · Dec 19, 2016

On the topic, does anyone know why German eBay sellers have monopolised sales of the Yashica FR. A few years ago the FR was available quite cheaply in the UK, but prices have been steadily rising and most have German origins. The FR is an excellent camera - frame counter issues notwithstanding - and the lenses were also good value, though those too are rising in price.

darkroommike · Dec 19, 2016

The FR, etc. use the Contaz/Yashica lens mount so are popular backup user bodies for folks invested in the Contax and I somehow think the Contax was very popular in Germany, probably still is. I had the first RTS in South Dakota, loved the lenses but took the whole system back and bought a Canon F-1 the first time the RTS camera body failed to work on a 30 degrees F below zero day, that's -35 Celcius. I picked up an FR1 a few weeks ago it too has a broken film counter, but I got it cheap.

dynachrome · Dec 19, 2016

I have not had good luck with FR cameras. They just aren't made very well. If you are dedicated to them you could have someone make spare/improved parts using a 3D printer. I have three overhauled Yashica FX-3 cameras. They are more pleasant to use than the FR cameras and they are much more reliable. I found a company on the internet called Koffler Sales. They sell safety products. Their 4X9" Soft Textured Vinyl Traction Strips make a good new covering material for the FX-3 cameras. The strips have adhesive on the back but my repairman removed it and used Pliobond. So far I have used only the black strips but I have some gray ones I'd like to try next. Somewhere I have a working Yashica FX-103 which needs some cleaning up and new skin. Maybe that will become the gray one.

blockend · Dec 19, 2016

dynachrome said:
I have not had good luck with FR cameras. They just aren't made very well.

Is that the general consensus? One contemporary report claimed the FR was more reliable than the Contax RTS. I reach for mine frequently in favour of Nikon and Canon cameras. It has a simple cloth shutter, LED metering and analogue shutter and aperture information the viewfinder. The meter switch is well designed, a sliding control that stays on while the advance lever is in the ready position, and turns off when it's recessed. The only thing I don't like is the silly custom remote socket. I find the FR very solid and intuitive and apart from the counter, seems to work as well as it did 40 years ago.

I don't have any experience of the FR1, and the FR2 was an attempt to ape the full auto SLRs of the era. In black it looks like the model for the Fuji XT digital cameras.

Les Sarile · Dec 19, 2016

blockend said:
Is that the general consensus?

Not by my sample that I picked up cheap on a local CL that the owner told me he used extensively as his wedding rig for years. It is fully functional, accurate and works as it should. And it looks well taken care of too.

pentaxpete · Dec 20, 2016

This is MY 'Gift' FR-1 outfit --- ( saved from going to a DUMP as I got to the bloke in time after he contacted my Club with the offer of free gear IF some-one got there quickly -- that is how I also got my Contax RTS II Quartz gear !)

Yashica gear by Peter Elgar, on Flickr

darkroommike · Dec 20, 2016

Les Sarile said:
Not by my sample that I picked up cheap on a local CL that the owner told me he used extensively as his wedding rig for years. It is fully functional, accurate and works as it should. And it looks well taken care of too.
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Your's are the original FR, perhaps it is only later models that have the issue?

ronnies · Dec 21, 2016

All the FR series have the same problem. I have an FR, FR I and FR II and the frame counter is broken on all of them.

Ronnie

AgX · Dec 21, 2016

And what is the fault in detail? (I have not yet opened my sample. But I might consider exchanging a part in advance.)

pentaxpete · Dec 21, 2016

Both my 'Gift' FR-1 and Contax RTS II Quartz have had a 'bang' which may account for stuck counters I thought -- FR-1 on Pentaprism area and RTS II on the corner near frame counter.

ronnies · Dec 21, 2016

There's a plastic worm gear that splits and wont turn the spindle it should be tightly fixed to.

Ronnie

AgX · Dec 21, 2016

A wormgear, that does not seem an easy replacement/fix.

blockend · Dec 22, 2016

ronnies said:
There's a plastic worm gear that splits and wont turn the spindle it should be tightly fixed to.

Ronnie

That makes sense because the counter does turn, but not consistently. A 36 exp film will finish on frame 18-24, so something's not catching properly.

ronnies · Dec 22, 2016

This page isn't about fixing the frame counter but shows the offending gear in the photos.
http://erebos.free.fr/spip.php?article80

Ronnie

Jeff L · Dec 22, 2016

I believe it was cdegroot had an article on FR counter gear repair.

AgX · Dec 22, 2016

Thank you, Ronnie.
I,m a tinkerer but already get annoyed when I have to take off glued pieces as that tiny cap on the shutter speed dial. That likely will be harmed by that and have to be refurbished themselves...

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