XTOL is now XDEV etc.

AnselMortensen · 2025-09-07T17:41:09-0400

MattKing said:
Blue ISO Limited is probably angling to sell or license the XTol name to either Eastman Kodak or PSI as we speak.

Or they will just use the name for their domestic market

MattKing · 2025-09-07T17:52:47-0400

AnselMortensen said:
Or they will just use the name for their domestic market

Do they have one? Are they even making or marketing anything other than trade names?

bedrof · 2025-09-07T18:29:44-0400

MattKing said:
Do they have one? Are they even making or marketing anything other than trade names?

A friend of mine working in China bought a bottle of HC-like developer made somewhere there, dunno whether by Sino or some ether legal entity.

DREW WILEY · 2025-09-07T19:37:16-0400

I forgot about that Yosemite debacle, David. Of course, the descendants of the Ahwahnee tribe could have claimed it as their own. Ahwahnee was also a little town further south on Hwy 49, which burned down when I was 13. It was also the name of ward in a tuberculosis sanitarium of the region. The nerve of those concessionaires!

But Kodak made a blunder when they sold off the rights to their own product names. Then, ironically, once such a product gets adulterated or ends up with poor quality control, they somehow get the blame.

reddesert · 2025-09-07T20:34:02-0400

I think somebody at Kodak (whichever Kodak has the name rights - Alaris ?) screwed up - their contract / licensing with Sino Promise should have included that if Sino Promise was unable to fulfill the terms or supply the product, the rights to the IP would revert to Kodak. I think that's a pretty normal provision, but I am not a lawyer, much less a contract or IP lawyer. Then, they should also have answered Sino Promise / Blue ISO's objection to Kodak's trademark re-registration, although the fact that they didn't answer the objection suggests Kodak knew they were in a pickle.

Donald Qualls · 2025-09-08T13:07:18-0400

What I take away from all of this is that my ongoing trend to home-mixed Parodinal and D-23/DK-25R is the right direction. If I buy a jar of hydroquinone I can make my own D-72 for prints, too.

XTOL is now XDEV etc.

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