Wow, That hurts

Flotsam · May 28, 2006

I just put the very last sheets of my Kodak Polymax Fine Art Fiber Base Double Weight into the washer. Sad Day. Good session though, I printed a brand new neg and an old one and got a couple of prints that I'm happy with. I think that I'll sleep clutching the empty yellow box tonight for closure. From Polycontrast FB to Polymax. How many years? A heck of a lot of prints under the bridge.

But I'm not bitter. I wish Kodak all the luck in the world competing with Sony and HP for a razor thin share of the digicam foto market.

...NOT!

Markok765 · May 28, 2006

Flotsam said:
But I'm not bitter. I wish Kodak all the luck in the world competing with Sony and HP for a razor thin share of the digicam foto market.

...NOT!

In the digicam market, boo sony,hp and kodak. if you want to get a digican go nikon or canon, i feel ur apin, i finushed my last roll of velvia

Dave Parker · May 28, 2006

Glad I have not finished my last roll of Velvia, I have about enough to get me through the summer at least, 400 rolls of 35 and 5 100 foot bulk rolls! and several hundreds of sheet film....but I am starting to sweat a bit!

LOL

R.

Flotsam · May 29, 2006

Kodak never competed with Nikon or Canon.
Their contributions to the modern camera world were the 110s, the Discs, ripping off the Polaroid SX-70 and, of course, the highly successful 126 SLR.

DBP · May 29, 2006

And they gave up on serious 110 cameras pretty quickly.

JLP · May 29, 2006

Did Fuji discontinue Velvia or is it just Velvia 50?

Dave Parker · May 29, 2006

JLP said:
Did Fuji discontinue Velvia or is it just Velvia 50?

Just the ISO 50 version of Velvia was discontinued.

R.

JLP · May 29, 2006

Thanks, got me a bit nervous there. The 50 was a bit to contrasty and saturated but i am sure it will be missed by many.

Jim Chinn · May 29, 2006

Flotsam said:
I just put the very last sheets of my Kodak Polymax Fine Art Fiber Base Double Weight into the washer. Sad Day. Good session though, I printed a brand new neg and an old one and got a couple of prints that I'm happy with. I think that I'll sleep clutching the empty yellow box tonight for closure. From Polycontrast FB to Polymax. How many years? A heck of a lot of prints under the bridge.

But I'm not bitter. I wish Kodak all the luck in the world competing with Sony and HP for a razor thin share of the digicam foto market.

...NOT!

I assume you have seen some of the recent posts concerning by Bobby Sandstrom discussing finding a substitue for Polymax. I am going to order some new Forte and work with his combination and see how it compares.

Believe me I share your sense of loss. Polymax Fine Art to me was the last of the classic looking papers. Crisp highlights, tremendous Dmax and a tonal graduation that I could only compare to the old 'classic" oriental seagull. And of course as luck would have it my next favorite papers were Agfa (sigh).

But I am no longer going to waste any energy being mad a Kodak. They still make film an chemistry that I use and I hope that the recent effort at providing TMY in ULF sizes is seccessful enough that it becomes a yearly or bi-yearly effort similar to Ilfords LF film runs.

But photographers have always had to learn to adapt going back way before digital. To hear some people pine for the loss of Kodak Super XX film you would think we would be better off putting a bullet in our heads then to go on without it. Portriga, Seagull (original), Velour, just a few of the names that went away and poeple learned to get great prints with new papers and techniuqes.

Lachlan Young · May 29, 2006

Jim Chinn said:
I assume you have seen some of the recent posts concerning by Bobby Sandstrom discussing finding a substitue for Polymax. I am going to order some new Forte and work with his combination and see how it compares.

Believe me I share your sense of loss. Polymax Fine Art to me was the last of the classic looking papers. Crisp highlights, tremendous Dmax and a tonal graduation that I could only compare to the old 'classic" oriental seagull. And of course as luck would have it my next favorite papers were Agfa (sigh).

But I am no longer going to waste any energy being mad a Kodak. They still make film an chemistry that I use and I hope that the recent effort at providing TMY in ULF sizes is seccessful enough that it becomes a yearly or bi-yearly effort similar to Ilfords LF film runs.

But photographers have always had to learn to adapt going back way before digital. To hear some people pine for the loss of Kodak Super XX film you would think we would be better off putting a bullet in our heads then to go on without it. Portriga, Seagull (original), Velour, just a few of the names that went away and poeple learned to get great prints with new papers and techniuqes.

BTW Velour and Varilour never really went away - they just ran off to Croatia from where JandC found them and started to reimport them - ADOX FINEPRINT is none other than Varilour - a paper for which there is only one aposite word - WOW!!!!!!!!! From what I have seen of images printed on Polymax Fine Art, ADOX Fineprint or Forte Polygrade will be excellent and quite possibly superior substitutes - depends on your particular vision I suppose.

Good luck,

Lachlan

P.S. I wonder If enough people would be interested in getting JandC to get a run made of EFKEBROM Grades 2&3 (essentially Velour Black)...

JBrunner · May 29, 2006

Lachlan Young said:
BTW Velour and Varilour never really went away - they just ran off to Croatia from where JandC found them and started to reimport them - ADOX FINEPRINT is none other than Varilour - a paper for which there is only one aposite word - WOW!!!!!!!!! From what I have seen of images printed on Polymax Fine Art, ADOX Fineprint or Forte Polygrade will be excellent and quite possibly superior substitutes - depends on your particular vision I suppose.

Good luck,

Lachlan

P.S. I wonder If enough people would be interested in getting JandC to get a run made of EFKEBROM Grades 2&3 (essentially Velour Black)...

ADOX really is a fine "old timey" paper. I've got 11x14 and have been trying to get 8x10 for a couple of months now, so I assume its popularity is building. I hope supply increases.

Lachlan Young · May 29, 2006

JBrunner said:
ADOX really is a fine "old timey" paper. I've got 11x14 and have been trying to get 8x10 for a couple of months now, so I assume its popularity is building. I hope supply increases.

8x10 could be a bit tricky to get as it is an imperial size and EFKE does most of its paper coating on metric sizes with the result that in Europe at least 9.5x12 and 12x16 are far easier to get.

Hope this helps,

Lachlan

JBrunner · May 29, 2006

Alas, J&C lists only 8x10 for any size smaller than 11x14.

John McCallum · May 29, 2006

Flotsam said:
I just put the very last sheets of my Kodak Polymax Fine Art Fiber Base Double Weight into the washer. Sad Day. Good session though, I printed a brand new neg and an old one and got a couple of prints that I'm happy with. I think that I'll sleep clutching the empty yellow box tonight for closure. From Polycontrast FB to Polymax. How many years? A heck of a lot of prints under the bridge.

But I'm not bitter. I wish Kodak all the luck in the world competing with Sony and HP for a razor thin share of the digicam foto market.

...NOT!

It hurts don't it !? Not much consolation; but think how busy they're going to be dropping products in their new market he he .

Neal, there's a box of 12x16 on the floor in my local shop. Last one, been there for a while but looks good.

When's your birthday?

John.

Flotsam · May 30, 2006

Thanks John, I'll just swing by and pick it up
Rather than put off the inevitable, I think that I'll support the guys who are still making the stuff we need. That Forte/pf130 combo sounds encouraging.

However, if you happen to run across a copy of the May 2001 issue of Playboy ( the Brooke Burke issue), my Birthday is Jan. 25th

lowellh · May 30, 2006

To insure that you have product in the market, you have to buy what the market is offering. Find a product that meets your needs and don't waste energy on bemoaning what is no longer there. There are still lots of choices available without the yellow box.

John McCallum · May 30, 2006

I'll look out for it for you. Expect it will arrive on our shelves before the end of the year .

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