MP is a M6TTL without TTL-OTF flash metering, a retro style pain in the but rewind crank and retro appearance. It looks fabulous, if it only had a M4, M6 rewind crank it would be perfect. A modern interpretation of the original MP, black paint on a brass top cover, absolutely beautiful.
In my perfect world, I think Leica should just commit to keeping any and all Ms running by either stocking or fabricating new parts. Commit to restorations and CLAs. That's a lot more useful than brand new film cameras for people who just haaaave to spend $4 grand on something shiny and untouched.
What Patrons those buyers are?
I has been indicated above that the vast majority of film users is not interested in buying a new Leica of that sort. Nor do Leica make a low-priced film camera. Thus what are they funding?
The Leica digital cameras sell much better, they do no need crossfunding from film camera sales. Nor does the Barnack Prize.
+1. I wanted an M film camera for a long while and decided that new was the best option, despite the relatively high price. I went for the M-A and have to say that I haven't regretted it for a second. A beautiful 'thing' that just feels so right to me and never fails to bring a smile to my face. I did later buy an M4 to have a second body - even I found it hard to justify two M-As, although the thought did cross my mind once or twiceEmotions and happiness are what counts in buying new film M body
Looks like the MP only offers the standard 0.72 finder, unlike the original MP and the M2, which had a 0.85x max frame lines for 35mm. M3 was 1x. Part of the reason the M3 is loved is the 1X bright finder. Anything wider than 50mm required goggles or a separate finder.
Looks like the MP only offers the standard 0.72 finder, unlike the original MP and the M2, which had a 0.85x max frame lines for 35mm. M3 was 1x. Part of the reason the M3 is loved is the 1X bright finder. Anything wider than 50mm required goggles or a separate finder.
Yes, but my actual question was, what kind of patronage those apply who indeed buy a film Leica.
Not anymore.There is "Leica a la carte", you can order any finder with new MP or M-A. M3 has 0.91 finder, and it is my favorite body. M2 never had 0.85 finder.
I keep hearing that but some form of customization program is still mentioned on the Leica USA web site. No finder options, though.
I keep hearing that but some form of customization program is still mentioned on the Leica USA web site. No finder options, though.
https://us.leica-camera.com/Photography/Leica-M/M-System-Service/Redesign
Right. Not sure how expensive it would be (probably a lot) but I assume one could have someone like DAG or YYE perform a finder swap on an MP or M-A. I've heard of people doing this on M4s etc.Nothing about ordering different OVF.
I'm not sure I understand. Applying patronage? I have purchased, sold, send for service, parts some film Leica.
Did I applied some patronage?
Think of the buyers as Patrons of the Art of Photography.
What Patrons those buyers are?
I has been indicated above that the vast majority of film users is not interested in buying a new Leica of that sort. Nor do Leica make a low-priced film camera. Thus what are they funding?
The Leica digital cameras sell much better, they do no need crossfunding from film camera sales. Nor does the Barnack Prize.
That is unfortunate. Now 0.85 finders will be even more expensive.
If you love the Leica range finders as much as I love the Hasselblads, the additional cost is small and worth it for the pleasure of using a very fine camera. It is just part of the cost of doing business.
Leica a la carte is dead. Last orders had to be in by June od this year. OK magnification numbers I may have wrong. My M2 had 35mm bright line for max, M3 had 50mm bright line max. All MP and MA going forward are 0.72, this is from Leica.There is "Leica a la carte", you can order any finder with new MP or M-A. M3 has 0.91 finder, and it is my favorite body. M2 never had 0.85 finder.
I've got a M6ttl with a 0.85 finder. Best camera Leica ever made. That ought to stir things up!
I stand corrected M2 had 0.72 with 3 frame lines.There is "Leica a la carte", you can order any finder with new MP or M-A. M3 has 0.91 finder, and it is my favorite body. M2 never had 0.85 finder.
I did not come up with that patronage thing. See post #24:
Am still seeking an explanation...
For some people, $4,000 is merely pocket change. They earn that in a day or less. And those are the very people most likely to buy a new Leica MP - Leica's target customers.I couldn't care less if Leica stopped making new film cameras altogether. I get why they do, fools and their money and all that. They don't need to though. Want a meter? M6, M7. Don't want a meter? M3, 2, 4, 4-2. 4-P. SO many choices.
A good M4 is just as good as a brand spanking new MA, at a fraction of the cost. Plus it has a history to it, and my personal conspiracy theory is that Leica today does not exactly make them like they used to.
In my perfect world, I think Leica should just commit to keeping any and all Ms running by either stocking or fabricating new parts. Commit to restorations and CLAs. That's a lot more useful than brand new film cameras for people who just haaaave to spend $4 grand on something shiny and untouched.
I'll keep shooting my F6 and LX now.
A good M4 is just as good as a brand spanking new MA, at a fraction of the cost. Plus it has a history to it, and my personal conspiracy theory is that Leica today does not exactly make them like they used to.
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