Wicked curl on Arista Premium

cmacd123 · Jan 22, 2011

picker77 said:
I made the mistake of buying into the forum rumors that this stuff was actually re-badged Tri-X and Plus-X. I have to admit it does produce very nice negatives using the development chemicals and times for those films, but there's no way this base material is the same as Kodak.

These days there are More "ARISTA" films than you can shake a stick at.

Arista EDU was Forte
Arista EDU Ultra is FOMA
Arista II was AGFA
Artista Profesional was ILFORD.
and ARISTA PREMIUM, appears to be for all intents and Purposes Kodak.

Paper is different for a few of those brands.

Jordan · Jan 22, 2011

picker77 said:
I made the mistake of buying into the forum rumors that this stuff was actually re-badged Tri-X and Plus-X. I have to admit it does produce very nice negatives using the development chemicals and times for those films, but there's no way this base material is the same as Kodak. If I can't figure a way around this, I'll let my local lab machine process and scan the remainder of it for me and let them deal with the headache. I hope the 35mm doesn't do the same thing, haven't tried it yet.

Arista PREMIUM is re-badged Tri-X and Plus-X, but Arista PREMIUM has never been available in 120 format. If you have 120-format Arista B&W film, it is almost certainly Arista.EDU Ultra, which is re-badged Foma and does in fact curl like crazy.

Photo Engineer · Jan 22, 2011

Thanks Jordan. I thought I was going crazy here, because I know that Kodak tries to avoid problems like this. But then, customers wanting re-badged film often want special options. So, I did not know what was going on.

Kodak uses a back coat, tentering (see Bob Shanebrooks book) and other processes to try to prevent this as much as possible.

That is what you all pay for when you buy Ilford, Kodak and Fuji products. You pay for years of R&D to eliminate all possible problems.

PE

Tim Gray · Jan 22, 2011

While I've never had major piping/setting problems with Kodak film (pretty much all I shoot), I most definitely have a slight piping problem with most of the 35mm film I home develop, Kodak included. I hang it up with clips on the top and weighted ones on the bottom. It's enough that before scanning I figure it's best to put them under some books overnight.

I didn't have this issue with the handful of 120 films I've gone through.

picker77 · Jan 23, 2011

Although "piping" isn't a term I'd heard before, that exactly describes the problem I had. And more hanging weight during drying likely wouldn't help that anomaly.

Thanks for all the helpful info from all!

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