That's why you're confused. The definition isn't anything to do with what you like, I admire Atget and Evans work greatly, but neither are remembered as SPs. While there were precedents and exceptions, for candid photography the hand held compact 35mm camera was the tool that enabled street photography.I think, it is up to each individual how to describe street photography.
I know how Winogrand did it. He pre-focussed and shot freely, only using the rangefinder if he had the opportunity. A 28mm lens allows you to do that. It's one of the reasons street photographers do not generally use a 50mm lens. People think because they're carrying a Barnack and a 50 like HCB they're street photographers. To get the depth of field and freeze motion with a 50 requires great light and fast film. Most of the time your subjects will be distant, or out of focus or blurred. You're unlikely to get a half body shot and infinity in focus on a 50, something has to give. I'm certainly not claiming candid street photography cannot be done on a 50mm lens, but there's a reason street photographers choose wider focal lengths. Shooting street on an old rangefinder camera means you will be pre-focused much of the time, or you're shooting portraits not candidly.As for external viewfinders, here is no restriction at all. Watch how Winogrand did it.
I absolutely agree. Most current street photography is shot on smart phones.Street photography is not limited for single method and to single type of equipment.
Actually, they do glow, at least they do on my screen - but it's the lighting and subjects, which the lens did a great job of reproducingAre these pots and cups glowing? 50mm Summitar, Tmax 400 film, Himalayan Buddhist Academy, (Ngagyur Sergon Lungrig Sheddup Zungdel Ling), Serlo, Nepal. I have relearned how nice this little Summitar can be.
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That's why you're confused. The definition isn't anything to do with what you like, I admire Atget and Evans work greatly, but neither are remembered as SPs. While there were precedents and exceptions, for candid photography the hand held compact 35mm camera was the tool that enabled street photography.
I know how Winogrand did it. He pre-focussed and shot freely, only using the rangefinder if he had the opportunity. A 28mm lens allows you to do that. It's one of the reasons street photographers do not generally use a 50mm lens. People think because they're carrying a Barnack and a 50 like HCB they're street photographers. To get the depth of field and freeze motion with a 50 requires great light and fast film. Most of the time your subjects will be distant, or out of focus or blurred. You're unlikely to get a half body shot and infinity in focus on a 50, something has to give. I'm certainly not claiming candid street photography cannot be done on a 50mm lens, but there's a reason street photographers choose wider focal lengths. Shooting street on an old rangefinder camera means you will be pre-focused much of the time, or you're shooting portraits not candidly.
I absolutely agree. Most current street photography is shot on smart phones.
Listen I'm not going to debate what street photograph is and is not with anybody, because experience suggests people get it or they don't. What I challenge is your lack of experience point. I've shot candids on an SLR, a rangefinder, manual and AF point and shoots and a phone, with varying degrees of success and lack of it, and all kinds of focal lengths. In doing so I know what is and is not technically possible, and the rest is instinct.And I think you are spending to much time on technical accepts, but without practice.
Challenge accepted....What I challenge is your lack of experience point....
Reel yourself in a little. I'm commenting on a thread about screw mount Leicas, in particular their viewfinders based around the 50mm focal length, and how useful that is or is not as a street photography camera-lens combination. I have not commented on any of the photographs you've posted, and will not do so. I do not post mine anywhere on the internet for various reasons, so never pass judgement on other people's unless they are known photographers of repute. One of the reasons is the internet is addicted to approval, and I really don't care what people on the web think of my photos, in fact I only trust the judgement of a very few people I know personally. I also have national photographic awards to back up that I know what I'm talking about, and over 40 years experience of working with film. I mention those things only because you've equated my comments with purely theoretical knowledge against your decade of experience in the medium.I'm sorry but from what I read from you it looks like you are more on the side of the keyboard and theoretical forum warrior
Reel yourself in a little. I'm commenting on a thread about screw mount Leicas, in particular their viewfinders based around the 50mm focal length, and how useful that is or is not as a street photography camera-lens combination. I have not commented on any of the photographs you've posted, and will not do so. I do not post mine anywhere on the internet for various reasons, so never pass judgement on other people's unless they are known photographers of repute. One of the reasons is the internet is addicted to approval, and I really don't care what people on the web think of my photos, in fact I only trust the judgement of a very few people I know personally. I also have national photographic awards to back up that I know what I'm talking about, and over 40 years experience of working with film. I mention those things only because you've equated my comments with purely theoretical knowledge against your decade of experience in the medium.
You are entitled to your opinion, and you are entitled to use your pictures as exemplars of street photography. This is not a camera club and we are not having a competition. I maintain that a 50mm focal length is unpopular among street photographers for sound aesthetic and technical reasons. Photo bombing the forum does not dissuade me from that conclusion.
I am not a paying member of the forum, so contributing photographs to illustrate my point is not an option. I had a Flickr page long ago, but I found it an unstable platform because ownership continued to change, passwords were not retrievable and there is no longer a contact by which to fix things. Instagram is a likes exchange.Writing how great and understanding you are without pictures is also common, but less creditable, sometimes.
I am not a paying member of the forum, so contributing photographs to illustrate my point is not an option. I had a Flickr page long ago, but I found it an unstable platform because ownership continued to change, passwords were not retrievable and there is no longer a contact by which to fix things. Instagram is a likes exchange.
There's an issue on this forum that people take comments as personal insults, even when they are nothing to do with the person concerned. As I don't criticize individual's work, I can't be held responsible for their identification with an objective comment I make.
...and the biggest spoon comes to stir a pot that's nicely settled. As usual.Moderators, could you please convince these two to get a room? Now back to the topic of the thread: Why use a Leica screw mount camera today?
Because you like to? Need there be any additional justification? Why are three pages of posts required?Why use a Leica screw mount camera today?
Because you like to? Need there be any additional justification? Why are three pages of posts required?
As for why to use a Barnack Leica today, what do you think of this:
https://www.35mmc.com/02/01/2016/reasons-own-thread-mount-leica/
The M cameras are more friendly to use. Bigger & brighter finder, single eyepiece, visible frames for different focal lengths,
lever advance and loading is a bit easier.
M2 & M3 used a knob rewind but the M4 used a crank.
With that, my only Leica now is a lllG. I'm pretty sure someone mentioned size.
No, the IIIg arrived after the M series. It was an uber-Barnack for M39 buffs.Indeed, the IIIg being the last model just before the Ms
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On a screwmount Leica it is impossible to view the film gate without disassembling the camera.Brad, I can give you a rational reason for using a screw-mount camera and lenses. You can underlay shim washers for close and macro shots with washers just following up the near focus end of a lens. Extension rings and tubes will allow still shorter distances. To frame and focus I put a matted piece of plastic on the film rails. Turret movie camera systems by Bell & Howell and Paillard-Bolex have rackover accessories that allow to preset a lens before swinging it in front of the taking aperture.
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