wholesale chemicals

[Dave Parker]

Jay,

Being a lic business in the photographic industry, I might be able to purchase them for you, send me the information and I will check with them..

Dave

 

[avandesande]

All you need is someone with a (business)tax id number and a non-residential shipping address.

 

[Dave Parker]

Well there ya go, I have both!

Dave

 

[Photo Engineer]

Both the Formulary and Antec sell in bulk as well. The prices on some of the chemicals turns out to be quite competitive in some cases.

PE

 

[Wayne]

Your SS number is your tax id number. You just became a sole proprietor, and can order it yourself. This is assuming thats what they really want, rather than a business license number (which you can also get pretty cheaply in most states but is a PIA if you arent in business)

 

[fhovie]

I could use some more Gallol and Catechol

 

[Wayne]

BTW, I dont see glycin in their online catalog anyway, only glycine.

 

[dancqu]

I was browsing through my Alfa Aesar catalog, ....
I want to buy a lb ea. of catechol, hydroquinone,
glycin, and ppd. Jay

The four of those from one source. Off hand I'd think
P. Formulary the Only source of the four. Dan

 

[jim appleyard]

I've read (Anchell/Anchell & Troop???) that the Formulary is the only source of glycin in the US and perhaps N. America.

 

[Gerald Koch]

I've read (Anchell/Anchell & Troop???) that the Formulary is the only source of glycin in the US and perhaps N. America.

They manufacture it themselves. The starting materials are p-aminophenol and monochloroacetic acid.

 

[Jordan]

Jay -- When I was in grad school, my group regularly bought research chemicals from Alfa Aesar. They're a very reputable company, at least from the point of view of academic organic chemistry research. What you have to watch out for from these supply houses is shipping. The costs can be absolutely astronomical (even small bottles are packaged extremely securely, with lots of vermiculite, foam peanuts, etc. -- the boxes get big).

 

[Peter Schrager]

Chems

Here's a good link for you all : City Chemical 1-800-248-2436
They are in Connecticut....stock over 10,000 chemicals
Peter

 

[tdeming]

Jay, you might try looking under "4-hydroxyphenylglycine" for glycin. Aldrich Chemical (sigma-aldrich.com) sells it for $85.60/25g.

I'm a chemistry professor, but cannot buy chemicals for anyone outside my research group since I work for a public university that is very concerned about any liability issues. The chemical companies typically have similar concerns, but are usually not overly worried who they are selling to if there is a business address. Satin Snow should be able to help make the purchase.

cheers

Tim

 

[Wayne]

I have never seen that name for glycin, but I am a long ways from a chemistry professor. I'm curious where that name came from though. I've seen p-Hydroxyphenylaminoacetic acid, p-hydroxyanilinoacetic acid, para-oxyphenyl glycin(no "E"), and para-oxyphenyl glycocoll

 

[Dave Parker]

Hey Jay,

In case you read this, I have both an email and a call into the company and just waiting for them to get back to me.

Dave

 

[Wayne]

Photographers Formulary makes their own glycin. Its not a fun process if I recall correctly, and if it was available elsewhere at a good price they would probably get it that way. I think they are the only ones making it, I dont know of any uses for Glycin other than photography. I could be wrong though.

 

[jim appleyard]

I sent a PM to Mr. R. Suzuki, who post here often, re a previous thread about making your own glycin. He responded back that it was quite dangerous and obtaining the chemicals that go into glycin is difficult. He HIGHLY suggested that I just buy glycin instead of making it.

 

[Jordan]

I have never seen that name for glycin, but I am a long ways from a chemistry professor. I'm curious where that name came from though. I've seen p-Hydroxyphenylaminoacetic acid, p-hydroxyanilinoacetic acid, para-oxyphenyl glycin(no "E"), and para-oxyphenyl glycocoll

The naming of "glycin" is weird. The first naming I would come up with is the same as tdeming's. There are lots of ways to "skin a cat" when it comes to naming organic compounds.

Glycin is a close chemical derivative of metol. But personally I wouldn't advise making it on your own unless you have graduate training in organic chemistry and access to a fully equipped lab, etc.

 

[Lee Shively]

I dunno if they have any chemicals you'd be interested in but http://www.chemistrystore.com/index.html has bulk chemicals available. I used them recently as a source for 25 pounds of sodium sulfite at a good price.

 

[Gerald Koch]

When quoting a name for Glycin, (N-parahydroxyphenyl)aminoacetic acid is to be prefered since the N in the name shows that the phenyl group is attached to the nitrogen of the aminoacetic acid. This differentiates it from an isomer with a similar name and no developing capability. Note that I capitalized Glycin since it is/was a tradename like Metol. This also helps distinguish it from the unsubstituted parent aminoacetic acid which is known as glycine (note the final "e" in the name).

Most chemicals now have a unique CAS number used to identify it. This can be a great help when different chemicals have similar names. The CAS number for Glycin is 122-87-2. Note that in a CAS number the second group always contains two digits and the third group always has a single digit. The first group can contain any number of digits. For example, Kodak's Dimezone-S developing agent is CAS #13047-13-7.

 

[tdeming]

Tim, $85/25g is not very competitive, considering PF's price is less for a lb.

Jay

Jay,

The problem is that most fine chemical companies are selling chemicals of high purity for research purposes--which makes them a lot more expensive. Most of the chemicals used in the darkroom can be lower in purity without causing much problems. I think a lot of the chemicals sold for the darkroom are bulk, technical grade chemicals, which are much cheaper. This may explain some of the inconsistencies in chemicals from different sources, or batch to batch, as seen with things like amidol.

I'd also agree with Jordan that making glycin at home is probably not a good idea. you can end up with a lot of toxic chemical contamination, both in your garage as well as in you by inhalation, which is not a good thing.

Tim

 

[avandesande]

In the chemical industry, 'bulk' and 'wholesale' usually means hundreds of kilos or a tank car. Look how things panned out for the amidol guys.

Catalogs are for labs.