???It's unlikely that Kodak will continue to make both Tri-X and Delta 400 as LF sheet films for much longer.
Freudian slip Matt I meant Tmax 400
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I read somewhere that the introduction of Delta 400 in sheets could hurt the sale of HP5 sheet film.
Better, maybe............,but far superior is a very big stretch. I think Delta 400 looks great in 120. So it would probably make me happy in 4x5 also. I really like TMY2 also, but I'm just not going to pay the difference when Delta 100, HP5+ and FP4+ are so good and cheaper to boot. Still, I think Delta 400 would be very nice in 4x5 - 8x10 sizes.Not me. Delta 100 is a wonderful film but in 400 speed I would say TMY-2 is far superior to Delta 400.
Yes, HP5+ is just plain excellent in 4x5 and not toooooo shabby in 120 either. I do prefer FP4+ in 120 a little more, but I'm starting to use more Delta 100 in 120 too! I have said this before and I'll say it again........TMY2 is the best 400 speed film available to date. I just don't use it very often anymore.You're right far superior was a poor choice of words, though I would still call TMY-2 superior and essentially peerless in its speed category. It has extremely long straight lined sensitometry, and grain about as fine as Delta 100.
If I were choosing an Ilford 400 speed film in 4x5 I'd be happy with HP5. I don't think Delta 400 is different enough.
You're right far superior was a poor choice of words, though I would still call TMY-2 superior and essentially peerless in its speed category. It has extremely long straight lined sensitometry, and grain about as fine as Delta 100.
If I were choosing an Ilford 400 speed film in 4x5 I'd be happy with HP5. I don't think Delta 400 is different enough.
Try Ultrafine Xtreme 400 in 120 if you want Kentmere 400 in 120.Sorry double post.
I don't know what it is for me, but while I love delta 100 in sheets, and rollfilm, I'm not a fan of delta 400 in any form. I much prefer hp5 as a faster film. I don't find delta 400 to simply be a faster version of delta 100, although I originally assumed this. It's different. Somehow. Duller. Negatives are thinner. It could be me. Please tell me I'm wrong, and I will try it again. I didn't like it. Believe me, I want to love it.
Now, if a vote could be cast for an expanded line extension of their films, I would much prefer panf 50 in sheet film. I'd also like to see it on their ULF offerings. I'd buy a heck of a lot more slower film for my older cameras. Some of the stuff that they offer in that program for older cameras only appears as HP5, and really makes little sense at that speed, but I buy it because unless I can slit it myself from something else, there's no other alternative.
Delta 100 & HP5+ have closer curve shapes to each other - and FP4+ & Delta 400 have a similar relationship.
You'll have a hard time with Pan-F in anything approaching contrasty light - it's got a contrasty curve designed in (short toe & quite a short straight line section), & there's only so much you can do about it. Try Ortho+ in dilute PQ Universal if you want to wipe speed off fast - an EI of 25 is what Ilford say it has in that combination... If you're sensible (& that means a Y2 filter when appropriate) it'll do most things pan films will.
Thank you! This could be why I get along so well with HP5 and D100 so well, and not so much D400 nor FP4. Thanks for the tips, I'm gonna investigate all this further. I mostly use DD-X and perceptol right now. I agree, the contrast of PanF50 is something I had to initially learn how to adjust to in certain situations, but the creaminess is wonderfully smooth and lush to my eyes, so I kept experimenting. I think it may also have much to do with the older, lower contrast, uncoated lenses I tend to favor, with the panF punching that up a bit. All my more modern, contrasty lenses are for 4x5, so I've been unable to use panF in that setting. Therefore, I don't know how the contrast would look with something multicoated.
HP5+ is a really decent film rated at 800. Might be worth a try. I have run it at 800 in 120, but haven't done it with 4X5 yet. JohnWI prefer TMY to Delta 400, personally. They're similar enough that I could go either way though. As long as they make one or the other, I'm happy. But my go to 400 speed B&W sheet film is Rollei IR 400. It's actually a really nice 400 speed film, that serves double duty because it can also be used as infrared film with an appropriate filter. The only down side is the thinner film base (and prewashing the anti-halation layer).
Still, I wish they had a decent 800 or faster speed film in 4x5. When you're shooting in high winds, like on the beach or on the mountain side, it sure would be nice to shoot with a high speed shutter to freeze the action, especially when your aperture is so small. I admit it wouldn't be that necessary for most occasions. But with grain not really being an issue in large format (usually), it sure would be nice to have that option available.
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