Which Way Works? Soft Vss. Sharp, a continuing drama....

jimgalli · Sep 17, 2008

This is little meadow falls, a lovely little spot in a slot canyon in Railroad Valley, Nevada. Just so happens I did it both with 150mm Super Symmar XL and a 12 inch Darlot Landscape Meniscus with no stops, wide open at f6 on the 5X12.

little meadow falls, 150 Symmar XL

little meadow falls, Darlot meniscus

The soft one works well for me. It transports me.

What say ye?

Sorry Ian, posted for my friends over at LFForum also

Whiteymorange · Sep 17, 2008

Good subject for the Darlot's particular look. Transports me, too.

mhcfires · Sep 17, 2008

I really like the soft look, it creates an ethereal feeling. Wonder shot.

André E.C. · Sep 17, 2008

Well Jim, I'm a sharpness sucker, therefore, I take the Symmar one.

But the most important thing here is, which one you really prefer as the creator? Take the Darlot's and be happy!

Cheers

André

ricksplace · Sep 17, 2008

I like 'em both. The soft one is more intriguing...I think...

keithwms · Sep 17, 2008

Sharp. But I'd be curious how the Darlot handled that highlight area, which I find a bit distracting.

Ian Grant · Sep 17, 2008

No problem Jim I don't like either that much

Well that's not strictly true, the sharper shot is OK but I find the framing far better in the Darlot shot, I'd prefer to see a bit of sharpness. Like André I'm sharpness fanatic with my own work, however I often like softer work by other photographers, your images included.

Ian

Thomas Bertilsson · Sep 17, 2008

I'm a Softie. The Darlot shot is just gorgeous! It speaks to me in heaps. The other one is a wonderful composition, but it doesn't really communicate with me. That's just me, speaking my heart. The quality of light comes through much better with the Darlot, and to me that's what it's all about.
Logically - the Symmar is probably more in tune with most people.
- Thomas

bdial · Sep 17, 2008

Of these, I like the Symar shot best, but I find the Darlot shot a little too tight, more than too soft. I'd love to see a shot with the Darlot that's in between this one, and the Symar.
Like Ian and Andre, I like sharpness, at least in my own work, but your stuff done soft is really special.

For me, even when I try to work with a soft lens, it comes out sharp.:confused:

jimgalli · Sep 17, 2008

Thanks for all the interesting comments!

sun of sand · Sep 17, 2008

have to go sharp

bobwysiwyg · Sep 17, 2008

I vote for sharp also, just a taste thing I guess. Some cropping, more from the bottom (gravel) than the top would be something I would try.

Uhner · Sep 17, 2008

I would say that both works really well, but I find the Darlot more interesting. It caught my eye.

eddym · Sep 17, 2008

I'll have to go with the Symmar. I like soft focus or motion blur in some cases, but not this one. To me, it calls for sharpness in the rocks.
But it's your photo, so please yourself first!

Chuck_P · Sep 17, 2008

I have to vote for the sharpe image. The soft image just looks, well, like an accident----I certainly like a little softness in moving water in an otherwise very sharp landscape. I guess I feel that "soft" images are better left for portrait photography. JMO.

nsurit · Sep 17, 2008

The soft one speaks to me, but then I'm kind of a pinhead. The nice thing is you can have it both ways. <{B^) Bill Barber

hacked - darinwc · Nov 11, 2008

Problem with these comparisons is that these are 2 very different compositions.

df cardwell · Nov 11, 2008

How about using the sharp lens, and using a softer tonal palette ?

Sometimes a new lens is too clinical, the soft lens too... obscure.

But there IS a middle way !

seawolf66 · Nov 12, 2008

Wish to add my too cents in the form of a Negative scanned , that was taken by me last sunday at winchester, Ma. shot with a Bausch & Lomb - Planatograph F-8 4x5 size which turns out to be about 195mm,wi9th Fp-4 film at F32 at 9 seconds and no adjustment made used a 3x red filter again, developed in ID-11 with 1-3 dilution for 9-1/2 Minutes, I think there is a place still for these lenses : Lauren

df cardwell · Nov 12, 2008

seawolf66 said:
...I think there is a place still for these lenses : Lauren

And very nice, too

Claire Senft · Nov 13, 2008

For this photo the Darlot does not transport me to any place I wish to be. Simple Symmar met a pymmar going to the photo fair. Said Symmar to the Pymmar....

Well you finish it.

jimgalli · Nov 14, 2008

Thanks everyone. Funny, I get to read all the nice comments in the notification e-mails when I'm at work, but my work computer blocks APUG so I have to wait until I get home to say thanks for all the thoughtful comments.

gevalia · May 14, 2009

Transport?

What is this "the photo transports me..." stuff? You GUYS are watching too much Oprah. Man up.

Ulrich Drolshagen · May 14, 2009

As Ian said. The composition of the soft one works better for me. I'd suggest to crop the sharp one roughly to the frame of the soft picture and compare then. At least I'd crop out the upper part with the gap between the rocks.

Ulrich

nicefor88 · May 14, 2009

I prefer the first picture for the contrast between the softness of the falls and the rough rocks. (but the second is nice too, just to be diplomatic)

Which Way Works? Soft Vss. Sharp, a continuing drama....

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