A really tasty sandwich at that.
To those who are used to interchangeable lens medium format gear, try it, you may be surprised. It certainly is smaller than my Mamiya 645 2 lens kit and it was substantially smaller than the RB67 with two lenses.
I happen to currently be using the small bag I often employ with my C330 stuff for other purposes, so I can't easily demonstrate it with a photo.
Are you sure about that? The line was 'just about the smallest bag possible for a two lens kit'. Not 'absolute' smallest.
A GF670's rough dimensions fit in about 1.2L compared to the 2.3L for a C330 with an 80mm lens, which sounds like a promising lead till you add that nearly 3L box around a GF670W's dimensions for your second lens, and compare that to the 0.3L for a spare Mamiya TLR lens.
A pair of Makina look like they come in as actually smaller, but that's barely half a litre, and for lugging a whole lot more weight.
You can save a bit of total volume out of things if you're comparing 'perfect' bags and minimizing space in the lens/cover bumps with perfect positioning, but once you account for padding, space for things like a bulb blower, filters, spare film, and space to actually reach in the bag to pull the stuff out,... Well, that doesn't really sound like all that much of a meaningful difference.
Well the new Mamiya 6 w 3 lenses fits in the same
Well my Mamiya 6 with all 3 lenses fit in the same Slow Tools Bag (roughly the size of the Domke F10) that i use for my Leica M kit.... there's no way to fit just the C330 in it....
And that is why the comparison of the Mamiya 6 with the C330 is interesting. Of course, the Mamiya 6 isn't one of the choices that are the subject of this thread.
The shape of the bag that works best with the small C330 kit is important.
And the phrases used by me when describing the C330 2 lens kit and associated bag were "remarkably compact" and "just about the smallest", not "smallest ever".
You're right the Mamiya 6 isn't one of Andrews cameras under discussion. But when you say
"a body and two lenses fits in just about the smallest bag possible for a two lens medium format kit." you're opening up for comparisons.... & clearly the bag on the ground next to Andrew isn't a small example. You may prefer the C330, but that doesn't make it either small nor light.
Well the new Mamiya 6 w 3 lenses fits in the same
Well my Mamiya 6 with all 3 lenses fit in the same Slow Tools Bag (roughly the size of the Domke F10) that i use for my Leica M kit.... there's no way to fit just the C330 in it....
How big to you think a C330 is?
The Domke F10's dimensions are 29.21 x 22.86 x 15.24 cm, a C330 is about 12 x 17 x 11 cm... You really don't think you can find a comparable sized bag with a suitable layout on the market for it and an extra two lenses?
Cause one of my bags, a 12"x6.5"x7" outer dimension bag [which is smaller than your quoted 11.5"x9"x6" outer diameter bag...] Currently has a C330 with 80mm, 135mm, 180mm, 250mm lenses, AND a spare 80mm lens... [Because I don't know which box my other Mamiya lenses ended up in currently, but the smaller lenses are all about the same size.]
Plus a hard cover note book, a small tablet, a light meter, film, a few filters, and I could still put my kobo on top if I wanted... In short, Mamiya TLR lenses are small and pack efficiently. And you can pack the camera with two lens options in a very small and efficient space if you want to take the time to find a bag with a suitable fit.
.. and buy a few more. It will be easier to decide which you like most.Instead of just keeping one camera, I would keep them all.
How big to you think a C330 is?
The Domke F10's dimensions are 29.21 x 22.86 x 15.24 cm, a C330 is about 12 x 17 x 11 cm... You really don't think you can find a comparable sized bag with a suitable layout on the market for it and an extra two lenses?
Cause one of my bags, a 12"x6.5"x7" outer dimension bag [which is smaller than your quoted 11.5"x9"x6" outer diameter bag...] Currently has a C330 with 80mm, 135mm, 180mm, 250mm lenses, AND a spare 80mm lens... [Because I don't know which box my other Mamiya lenses ended up in currently, but the smaller lenses are all about the same size.]
Plus a hard cover note book, a small tablet, a light meter, film, a few filters, and I could still put my kobo on top if I wanted... In short, Mamiya TLR lenses are small and pack efficiently. And you can pack the camera with two lens options in a very small and efficient space if you want to take the time to find a bag with a suitable fit.
Greg - it is the two lens + body medium format kit that is small, compared to other two lens + body medium format kits.
And that is due to the relatively small size of many of the lenses.
The size advantage increases if you go to 3 or 4 lens kits, but the total size of the bags for those ceases being what I call "compact".
The interior dimensions of the Domke F10 are 9"x7"x3".....there's no way to shoehorn a C330 into a bag that size....but a Mamiya 6 MF does.
Exactly. If you only want something in the 75 or 80mm range, then a C330 is one of the larger options. Possibly the largest of the common 6x6s? I can't think of anything off the top of my head that is noticeably bigger and not a 6x7 rig.
But if you start looking at multiple focal lengths and macro options... Options that are notably smaller and lighter drop off rather quickly. Like my Canon 24-105 is a good chunk of the total space of my C330, as are a lot of my RB67 lenses.
Of the main pocket... The Domke F10 has a large chunk of its total space devoted to a secondary storage pocket. Outer dimensions of a bag are kind of important to 'the size of the bag' - I have a C330 here on my desk, a spare lens, and two rolls of film. It fits into a space that would only need about 8.75"x5.5"x5. Are you really going to argue that is a vastly larger space than your F10 actually takes up?
Instead of just keeping one camera, I would keep them all. Each camera handles differently, so it’s not a question of which is objectively the best, but which camera do you feel most comfortable using. If you like them all, keep them all.
How many people in this thread find the need to change focal lengths when shooting 6x6? I got a Hasselblad ages ago thinking this would be a great draw. But I never took the 80 off the camera.
How many people in this thread find the need to change focal lengths when shooting 6x6? I got a Hasselblad ages ago thinking this would be a great draw. But I never took the 80 off the camera.
How many people in this thread find the need to change focal lengths when shooting 6x6? I got a Hasselblad ages ago thinking this would be a great draw. But I never took the 80 off the camera.
How many people in this thread find the need to change focal lengths when shooting 6x6? I got a Hasselblad ages ago thinking this would be a great draw. But I never took the 80 off the camera.
How many people in this thread find the need to change focal lengths when shooting 6x6? I got a Hasselblad ages ago thinking this would be a great draw. But I never took the 80 off the camera.
I only ever had three lenses for my Hassy - a 50, an 80, and a 120 Macro. So I did change lenses periodically, because I was using it when travelling. And then there was also the Superwide. Based on that experience, I was very concerned about taking just my Rolleiflex with me on a trip to Paris - would I find that it was limiting and I missed shots? Well, there were I'm sure a few images I didn't take because they would have required a wider field of view, but 99%+ of my shots were just fine with the 80. I think it actually helped me become a much better photographer by making me concentrate on just composing and being one with the camera, rather than constantly switching gear in and out. I often make that a practice now with whatever I'm shooting - just take ONE camera with me with ONE lens and shoot everything through that perspective, whether it's the Rollei, the Chevron, my Lomo LCA-120 with its super-wide lens, or the Lomo Belair with its moderate-wide panoramic aspect ratio. Helps focus the mind on making better images!
We use cookies and similar technologies for the following purposes:
Do you accept cookies and these technologies?
We use cookies and similar technologies for the following purposes:
Do you accept cookies and these technologies?