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Which Enlargers do these Negative Carriers Fit?

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Was wondering if anyone might be able to tell me which enlargers these carriers fit.

#1 The one with the "arms" has a 6x6 opening, glass on top an bottom and four adjustable sliding masking bars/frames. There is also what appears to be a latch/release for securing it in the enlarger head. The only thing I could find that resembled this one online was a carrier for the Meopta Opemus (Dead Link Removed) but they aren't the same.

#2 The other has interchangeable plates for 35mm and 6x6 (I've got the 6x6 set and 1/2 the 35mm) and unfolds into all sorts of fun, wacky configurations...


Any ideas? I'd love to be able to put the masking carrier to use.

#1 MaskingHolder-1.jpgMaskingHolder-2.jpgMaskingHolder-3.jpg

#2 Folding Holder-1.jpgFolding Holder-2.jpg
 
#1 is for Meopta Opemus 6. Carrier pictured on external link is for Opemus 4 or 5. Did you get them by any chance in Seattle? Exactly a year ago I saw bunch of negative carriers (between them was the same opemus 6 carrier) at garage sale at Photo Center NW. Tried to match them to appropriate existing enlarger, but... it was not my sale! For some strange reason somebody separated enlargers and negative carriers??? No comment!
 
Wow, that's some highly engineered neg carriers. Mine are made from DIY mat boards. Works pretty well.
 
The Meopta carriers are really rather good in use. You could still make a homemade mask to go in the same space if you really wanted to, for very odd sizes, but the double-glasses are swappable for steel masks if you prefer a glassless carrier so there is little need to go the homemade route.
 
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