I had a 3.5N. I agree that the 2.8 is large, and it is nice to have the same 58mm filter ring as the 80mm. I found that the performance was excellent and I didn't personally miss the approx extra 2/3 stop from the f/2.8. The price difference in excellent grade on KEH right now is also considerable. The 3.5 is going for $109 and the 2.8 $245. For that difference I would gladly get the 3.5 since I think that it also has great optics and I haven't had the need for the additional speed. For me, even if I had an unlimited budget, I would only get the 2.8 if I really needed the speed, since you have to carry it, and it will be more awkward for handholding too, I think. As for the f/4, I am not sure I would bother as it is only a tiny bit cheaper than the 3.5. Unless the optics are better, and I have never tried it.