• Welcome to Photrio!
    Registration is fast and free. Join today to unlock search, see fewer ads, and access all forum features.
    Click here to sign up

Where to buy sepia toner in Canada?

Recent Classifieds

Forum statistics

Threads
201,752
Messages
2,829,574
Members
100,926
Latest member
UTILISATEURPRO
Recent bookmarks
1

Twilight Lamentation

Member
Allowing Ads
Joined
Mar 12, 2008
Messages
3
Format
Multi Format
Hi,

Does anyone know where I could buy sepia toner (specifically containing thiourea) in Canada? Is it available in any retail stores, do you have to buy it online, or do you have to go and buy it in the US?

thanks
 

brian steinberger

Subscriber
Allowing Ads
Joined
Jan 5, 2007
Messages
3,045
Location
Pennsylvania
Format
Med. Format RF
The Fotospeed or Kodak odorless sepia toner kits should be available somewhere in Canada.

If you're not afraid of mixing up chems, a thiourea sepia toner is very very easy to mix from scratch. You only need 4 chemicals. And the best part is you can have a few different bleaches at different dilutions as well as toners with different amounts of sodium hydroxide to give you different colors. I highly recommend it!
 

mabman

Member
Allowing Ads
Joined
Jun 7, 2007
Messages
834
Location
Winnipeg, MB
Format
35mm
I don't recall specifically about sepia toner or specific ingredients, but last I was in my local store, Photo Central, they had a number of toning products - might be worth giving them a quick shout to ask. (Their website is currently mostly digital stuff, but don't be fooled - they have a significant amount of analog product including darkroom equipment and chemicals in-store.)

Nice guys, the staff actually has a clue (they do have a couple of digi-only guys, but even they know more about the analog side than your average camera store staff).

I understand they have something of a presence here, as well - hope to hear more from them soon (hint, hint) :smile:
 

Mike Wilde

Member
Allowing Ads
Joined
Aug 10, 2006
Messages
2,903
Location
Misissauaga
Format
Multi Format
Mail order and mix your own - JD Photochem

I order all sorts of stuff from Claire, and her service has always been good, just like from John DeIre before her. Ocassionally she goes on vacation, but then again why shouldn't she, and her e-mail bounces a reply of when she will be back.

I always am told if what I want will take a while to get, or is out of stock before the order is shipped. She will ship via Canada Post parcel post if you ask.
 

Don Wallace

Member
Allowing Ads
Joined
Jun 12, 2006
Messages
419
Location
Ottawa, Cana
Format
Large Format
I have bought such things at Henry's (Ottawa store) although it usually has to be ordered. In my experience, they don't take too long.
 
OP
OP

Twilight Lamentation

Member
Allowing Ads
Joined
Mar 12, 2008
Messages
3
Format
Multi Format
I've tried phoning all of the places suggested here, and they all only sell sulphide-based toners. The thiourea-based ones do have slightly different properties (such as the lack of rotten egg smell), so I'm surprised that they're not available here. Any other ideas?

thanks
 

Mike Wilde

Member
Allowing Ads
Joined
Aug 10, 2006
Messages
2,903
Location
Misissauaga
Format
Multi Format
PM me if you are interested.

Where in Canada are you?

I could weigh out the needed chemistry, and mail it to you for you to mix.

I happened to have my copy of the darkroom cookbook in my bag today. It lists #145 Formulary Thiorea Toner.

The bleach is quite typical - 50g Potassium Ferricyanide, 10g Pot Broimide, 20g Soduim Carbonate (mono) per litre - and is re used until it turns from orange yellow to blue.

The redeveloper is a 2 part, mixed just prior to toning as a one shot for that session:

Part A - a strong base stock solution 100g/L of sodium hydroxide. I use NaOH as a 40%W/V stock that I make up ahead of time so that it is cold by the time I get to it to use it. The NaOH might be a challenge to mail, for as dry it will easily and quickly suck water out of the air and turn into a lump of carbonate. I would suggest hitting the hardware store for a bottle of Red Devil Lye, from the drain cleaner section, to source this stuff locally. Home Hardware can order the stuff if they don't have it in stock. Read up on working with this stuff - it can easily eat the skin right off you, and at the very least leave a nasty burn.

Part B - Thoirea stock solution 5g/L

To use redeveloper, mix 56mL of each to water to yield final volume of 1L, i.e 1:1:16

Let me know of your needs if interested.
 
OP
OP

Twilight Lamentation

Member
Allowing Ads
Joined
Mar 12, 2008
Messages
3
Format
Multi Format
Where in Canada are you?
I could weigh out the needed chemistry, and mail it to you for you to mix.
Thank you very much for the offer, though I'm not actually trying to buy the chemicals myself. I'm doing some research on the photographic industry in Canada, specifically about what chemicals are used by hobbyists and where they're available. I didn't initially include thiourea on my list of what chemicals are used, but someone said that it is used in photography in the US, and suggested that it might be used in Canada as well. Hence me trying to figure out whether or not I, as a member of the general public, could buy thiourea-based toner if I were into photography.

Sorry for not mentioning this earlier! I just didn't know how photographers would react to outsiders asking questions, so I didn't want to get chased out of the forum or anything!
 

Jordan

Member
Allowing Ads
Joined
Sep 21, 2004
Messages
581
Location
Toronto, Can
Format
Multi Format
There is nothing intrinsically different enough between the US and Canada that would make a particular chemical used in one country but not in the other, distribution difficulties and EHS regulations aside.
 

mabman

Member
Allowing Ads
Joined
Jun 7, 2007
Messages
834
Location
Winnipeg, MB
Format
35mm
Well, in that case, I'm sure the most common chemical used by photographers in both Canada and the US would be ETOH in moderate quantities :smile:
 

richard ide

Member
Allowing Ads
Joined
Nov 8, 2005
Messages
1,217
Location
Wellington C
Format
Multi Format
And all this time I thought it was Dihydrogen Monoxide, although ETOH has added benefits. :D:D
 
Photrio.com contains affiliate links to products. We may receive a commission for purchases made through these links.
To read our full affiliate disclosure statement please click Here.

PHOTRIO PARTNERS EQUALLY FUNDING OUR COMMUNITY:



Ilford ADOX Freestyle Photographic Stearman Press Weldon Color Lab Blue Moon Camera & Machine
Top Bottom