My Rozeann brought me a small USB powered cooler/heater but I've no tested it in the car, preferring the cold bag or ice chest.
I have one of those "fancy" 12v or 120v coolers whose intended home was my truck. It was still sitting in my basement, so for now it is the film fridge.
How did/does NASA protect photographicfilms?
I watched the film Jay Myself the other night. For those unfamiliar with it, it is basically the story of the photographer Jay Maisel and his career--but mostly about move out of the 6-story, 30,000 sq-ft bank building he occupied for 50 years in the Bowery part of Manhattan. He is a hoarder, collecting anything that might make an interesting photo at some point. It took 35 moving vans to empty the place out. But to stay on topic, at one point he opened a large cupboard filled with bricks of 35mm Kodachrome. No refrigeration. I'm sure when he was shooting film he went through it fast enough not to worry. But the stash he was looking at had expired in 1974, and he more or less said good riddance, this is going in the trash--not because it was expired as much as he certainly didn't seem like he missed shooting film any more.
Seems to me that UV is the killer of long term stored film?
They didn't. Because it wasn't deemed necessary.
There is lots of info out there on the modified Hasselblads which went to the moon were actually stripped of some of their metalwork to reduce the weight. The film was held in a special magazine/cassette which could not be removed accidentally by the astronauts (who were not photographers) or by accidental bumping during flight. But there was no special protection against radiation or cosmic rays.
Honestly people tend to worry about these things *far* more than they need.
Where did he move the 35 moving vans of stuff too?
My Rozeann brought me a small USB powered cooler/heater but I've no tested it in the car, preferring the cold bag or ice chest.
You need not use ice. Gel packs work fine and not do not leave water. I put mine inside a ziplock bag just incase they develop a leak. But I never even use anything beyond an insulted bag or box to store film. No need for ice, just prevent the film from getting too warm. Camera stores use refrigerators set at 60ºF or so, like a floral refrigerator. Long-term storage (years) is different. Just make sure to properly allow the film to come to 60-65ºF before opening it.All they really do is not require you to keep buying ice and having to deal with melt water.
All they really do is not require you to keep buying ice and having to deal with melt water.
a small USB powered cooler/heater
Whatever I'm gonna use is carried in the camera bag and the rest is stored in the vegetable/fruit drawers in the fridge
Hm. USB is practically limited in most cases to around 10W. That makes for roughly the cooling capacity of an asthmatic mouse breathing across a wet paper napkin
How did you find an asthmatic mouse to test this? Can we see the data?
How did you find an asthmatic mouse to test this? Can we see the data?
You need not use ice. Gel packs work fine and not do not leave water. I put mine inside a ziplock bag just incase they develop a leak. But I never even use anything beyond an insulted bag or box to store film. No need for ice, just prevent the film from getting too warm. Camera stores use refrigerators set at 60ºF or so, like a floral refrigerator. Long-term storage (years) is different. Just make sure to properly allow the film to come to 60-65ºF before opening it.
Interesting insight. I do room for B&W. Sometimes think about the "should I have". 2020 Delta 100 is fine, my 400 (Delta 400 and HP5) expired 2022 and 2023. A way to feel time passing fast is to notice that the film expiration date has arrived when you bought it fresh, and then thinking it was a couple years into the future.Room. Mostly BW.
I have recently been using some HP5 expired in 2013 kept at room - not planned - but I see no difference from my fresh HP5.
So no need for me to refrigerate/freeze.
All My film is kept in the freezer.
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