When Tetenal will be back in service?

[PaulYW]

I am waiting desperately for E6 too. Fotoimpex mentioned November 22nd, but this date was postponed several times in the past.
Annoying but understandable, given the current shortages.

They will be available in a few months. They were moving their factory this year and soon will be able to produce their products again.

 

[AgX]

They will be available in a few months. They were moving their factory this year and soon will be able to produce their products again.

Where did you get this information ???

 

[PaulYW]

Where did you get this information ???

I've sent an email to them and received this information.

 

[AgX]

This is interesting! As there was no indication so far by them or others of a move and production stop.

Seen the planning for that industrial area, a move of some kind was to be expected though.


In the last weeks, glancing at retailer listings I only saw sporadic lackings of Tetenal chemicals, looking both at consumer and business products. At the Tetenal consumer shop there were no lackings at all. But just now I realized that one can put items onto ones order without being informed by them of any shipping delays...

 

[AgX]

I am waiting desperately for E6 too. Fotoimpex mentioned November 22nd, but this date was postponed several times in the past.
Annoying but understandable, given the current shortages.

Tetenal at their consumer shop state for the 2.5L kit 45days before shipping.

 

[PaulYW]

This is interesting! As there was no indication so far by them or others of a move and production stop.

Seen the planning for that industrial area, a move of some kind was to be expected though.


In the last weeks, glancing at retailer listings I only saw sporadic lackings of Tetenal chemicals, looking both at consumer and business products. At the Tetenal consumer shop there were no lackings at all. But just now I realized that one can put items onto ones order without being informed by them of any shipping delays...

Glad to hear that you like the news. May I ask you what brand's C-41 and E-6 chemistry are mostly being used for photo labs in Germany? It seems Tetenal produces OEM chemicals for Kodak or Fujifilm. But I haven't seen someone using Tetenal chemicals for their processors yet.

 

[AgX]

It seems Tetenal produces OEM chemicals for Kodak or Fujifilm.

Fujifilm has an own, huge plant in Europe just for manufacturing processing chemicals.
As long as this is running they will not need another manufacturer. More so, as they themselves have already taken consumer kits out of their program.

 

[PaulYW]

Fujifilm has an own, huge plant in Europe just for manufacturing processing chemicals.
As long as this is running they will not need another manufacturer. More so, as they themselves have already taken consumer kits out of their program.

I see. Do you know what OEM products Tetenal produces? It seems that Kodak C-41RA and RA-4 are also being manufactured from China.

 

[halfaman]

The last Kodak D76 bag I bought, a year ago more or less, was "Made in Germany". I think that HC-110 available in Europe right now is the same.

 

[cmacd123]

The last Kodak D76 bag I bought, a year ago more or less, was "Made in Germany". I think that HC-110 available in Europe right now is the same.

When Tetenal was reorganising, Kodak switched a lot of chemicals to USA production. (My guess being Photo systems/Unicolor) And apparently Alaris has licenced "Sino-Promise" to make some Kodak Chemicals in China. SOit is posible to find the nominal same product with three different origins. I am told that HC-110 for example falls into that category.

 

[MattKing]

And apparently Alaris has licenced "Sino-Promise" to make some Kodak Chemicals in China. SOit is posible to find the nominal same product with three different origins. I am told that HC-110 for example falls into that category.

Kodak Alaris sold the Kodak colour photo paper and Kodak Photo-chemical business to Sino Promise Holdings (and some related companies), who had formerly been one of their contract manufacturers, as well as a major distributor of Kodak film, paper and photo-chemicals in Asia and other markets.
Kodak Alaris no longer has any role in the sale and distribution of Kodak colour photo paper and Kodak Photo-chemicals. Kodak Alaris is only involved with the sale and distribution of Kodak still films, plus the other technology acquired from the Bankruptcy Trustee for Eastman Kodak (primarily office scanning technology).
Sino Promise now makes the Kodak colour photo paper and Kodak Photo-chemicals. Sino Promise also distributes those products world-wide, and is mid-level distributor of Kodak still films as well, at least in Asia and the other markets it previously operated in.

 

[mshchem]

Kodak Alaris sold the Kodak colour photo paper and Kodak Photo-chemical business to Sino Promise Holdings (and some related companies), who had formerly been one of their contract manufacturers, as well as a major distributor of Kodak film, paper and photo-chemicals in Asia and other markets.
Kodak Alaris no longer has any role in the sale and distribution of Kodak colour photo paper and Kodak Photo-chemicals. Kodak Alaris is only involved with the sale and distribution of Kodak still films, plus the other technology acquired from the Bankruptcy Trustee for Eastman Kodak (primarily office scanning technology).
Sino Promise now makes the Kodak colour photo paper and Kodak Photo-chemicals. Sino Promise also distributes those products world-wide, and is mid-level distributor of Kodak still films as well, at least in Asia and the other markets it previously operated in.

Is Sino Promise actually making Kodak papers, for sale, now, professional and amateur???

 

[halfaman]

By the way, my "Made in Germany" Kodak D76 bag has also the Sino Promises name on it. So it is not an old production..

 

[sasah zib]

making paper. learn a new phrase "‘Coating Event" (Ektachrome in January)
emulsions are being scheduled months in advance or even skipped.
Sino Promise distributes much equipment and supplies other than what they did for/with Kodak. They most certainly have real-time insight about Wet Lab/ Dry Lab requests. SP even must juggle DG nonDG shipments.

looking at Fuji for paper? Read their VISION2023 again: https://holdings.fujifilm.com/en/news/list/1091

 

[MattKing]

Is Sino Promise actually making Kodak papers, for sale, now, professional and amateur???

I don't know.
The possibility exists that they are making the paper, but can't get it into the worldwide distribution chain.
I doubt that there will be any amateur paper again, but there very well could be short, small rolls for small machines.

 

[cmacd123]

I don't know.
The possibility exists that they are making the paper, but can't get it into the worldwide distribution chain.
I doubt that there will be any amateur paper again, but there very well could be short, small rolls for small machines.

When things were "Normal" there were some firms that converted colour paper to darkroom sizes. perhaps if things settle down that may happen again. most of the colour paper these days is probably the Super fast "Laser" paper which may be hard to handle in a regular darkroom. WAY WAY back, freestyle converted paper to darkroom sizes, Mostly from Surplus stocks, I wonder if they still could bring that back.

 

[MattKing]

IIRC, that laser paper will work under the enlarger. The challenge is that its reciprocity characteristics are optimized for short exposures.

 

[cmacd123]

IIRC, that laser paper will work under the enlarger. The challenge is that its reciprocity characteristics are optimized for short exposures.

perhaps one needs an enlarger lens with provision for a BIG ND filter

 

[MattKing]

It isn't that kind of reciprocity failure. Not the low intensity, long exposure failure. Rather it is the high intensity, short exposure failure.