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pbromaghin said:

20 rolls... Please report back periodically as you figure it out. It looks like a really cool film and trying it will have to go on my list of things to do.

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I´ll do that. Hopefully this film will give me the same sensation I get by looking at my grandparents pictures

Truzi said:

I've a friend at work who grew up in Romania, and he has commented that no where but the U.S. has he ever seen such a disconnect between the source and table. I feel this applies to non-animal food as well, as I surprise people with the quality of produce that comes from local growers. I try explaining to people how most tomatoes are not ripe when picked, and merely changed color (with help) but do not ripen before they buy them. Also, most produce from the large grocers has been bred to increase yield and ease harvest - which robs flavor and nutrition.

My uncle hunts and will get a deer most seasons, and it is quite good. I doubt I could hunt, but I've nothing against it. I prefer food-animals that are "free range," so-to-speak. When I was a kid my uncle explained one scenario where they thought they only wounded a deer and had quite some trouble tracking it. I think many non-hunters either believe every kill is instant, or that hunters leave a plethora of wounded but living animals in their wake. Many don't realize there is a great deal of responsibility involved for the vast majority of hunters.

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I track wounded deer and moose on a weekly basis with my special trained dogs in order to prevent unnecessary suffering. Hunting season last only for a couple of months, but trains and cars keep me busy all year round.

I wish to apologise to the OP for side-tracking this thread into the ethics of animal welfare.

CatLABS said:

What????


The one who does not buy or eat any meat is obviously better, that way, at the very least, there is nothing to ponder on.
No animals in pens, and no animals who are not in pens get murdered. After all the most dangerous game is a human.

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Genetic background...

Certain cultural backgrounds (through generations of eating a certain food) have genetically evolved to handle certain foods differently than other cultural backgrounds.

For example those of African decent react to breads and processed foods very poorly (more than other cultures) because their naturally available food groups in Africa were many types of fruits and meat, but no grain whatsoever (I'm simplifying).

But Asians have lots of rice in their diet, so they can absorb it and not gain excess weight. (Again, over-simplifying).

That's what I meant. You may live well as a vegan/RAW foodie, but I would wither away.

Second: I agree with you, if you're doing neither, then your impact on animals is nil (except supplying chemistry to us fools who some of which don't dispose properly contaminating the environment in which the animals (including people) live).

Third TO THE OP...

I think I like the swirls and the blown out highlights . But I know nothing of this film, however I would suggest LESS agitation, one very gentile full rotation (upside-down) every 1 minute. I know it seems counter intuitive but try it. And agreed make sure you fix that film a while 7-10 minutes with agitation every minute. And re-fix the old stuff, if it is a fixing problem the film will turn black permanently and be unusable if you don't re-fix it soon.


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please try to refix. the highlights look underfixed to me.

Everybody hit the floor, THis is a threadjack!

I have landed in Hell or been to Hell and have even seen it snow in Hell. Moose are a common as deer in Texas and if you hit a deer at night it does a lot of damage. I cannot imagine the issues they have in Norway with the overpopulation of mooses. BTW, the reindeer is also very good eating!

Back to your regular program.

David

TXFZ1 said:

Everybody hit the floor, THis is a threadjack!

I have landed in Hell or been to Hell and have even seen it snow in Hell. Moose are a common as deer in Texas and if you hit a deer at night it does a lot of damage. I cannot imagine the issues they have in Norway with the overpopulation of mooses. BTW, the reindeer is also very good eating!

Back to your regular program.

David

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Yea, actually in CT they limited the hunting and now there is an overpopulation with now food they are starving and wandering into the highway getting hit every day, so now non-hunters from the state have to go in and shoot the deer to cut down the numbers as a "humane" way to keep them from suffering from starvation... So who's worse the hunters, the "herd thinners", or the people who want them to starve and be hit by cars because they don't want deer to be hunted? ...

Still wondering what the op has done with the film, if they were able to fix it further.


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Another off topic post, sorry. We as film users cannot condemn killing animals or we would be hypocrites. Remember what gelatin is....

TXFZ1 said:

Everybody hit the floor, THis is a threadjack!

I have landed in Hell or been to Hell and have even seen it snow in Hell. Moose are a common as deer in Texas and if you hit a deer at night it does a lot of damage. I cannot imagine the issues they have in Norway with the overpopulation of mooses. BTW, the reindeer is also very good eating!

Back to your regular program.

David

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You mean to say that the moose are having issues with the over population of humans... After all no one asked any of those texan deers if they minded that humans will be building a highway through their back yard...

CatLABS said:

You mean to say that the moose are having issues with the over population of humans... After all no one asked any of those texan deers if they minded that humans will be building a highway through their back yard...

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Well humans do have a hand in it (as does any population of animal that gets larger than the balance should normally be) but it's actually the Predators that are missing (for deer it's coyote type animals which are dwindling) so hunting helps balance the lack of those predators to even the balance again.

Anyway... OP help us get on target! Lol


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cliveh said:

I wish to apologise to the OP for side-tracking this thread into the ethics of animal welfare.

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WOW! Clive, this might be the best post ever. You are actually apologizing for threadjacking. My respect for you has skyrocketed.

Slowframe said:

I track wounded deer and moose on a weekly basis with my special trained dogs in order to prevent unnecessary suffering. Hunting season last only for a couple of months, but trains and cars keep me busy all year round.

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Interesting that you do this as a humane practice. Using dogs would be illegal in most of the US as an unfair advantage.

CatLABS said:

You mean to say that the moose are having issues with the over population of humans... After all no one asked any of those texan deers if they minded that humans will be building a highway through their back yard...

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Exactly, the only issue is it's illegal to hunt humans but if someone wanted to reduce the numbers themselves...nope, still illegal!

David

TXFZ1 said:

Exactly, the only issue is it's illegal to hunt humans but if someone wanted to reduce the numbers themselves...nope, still illegal!

David

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Not true. The government can put you in a uniform and hand you a rifle. :confused:

Have done some further research with this film and it seem promising so far. Agitation for the first five minutes of development, then thirty seconds every minute for 14 minutes. 7 minutes fixing. Did some curve adjustments after digitalizing with D800E and used an orange filter during photographing. Portrait 1 sec shutter speed, hence the not tac sharpness. My other camera forgotten a couple of nights out in the forest. The leaf is a multi exposure. Conclusion: I like it!