Drew, there is a lot of good information in this thread, but I am getting a bit lost. For Ektar 100 in 35mm cameras: expose at EI=100, correct? If in doubt, err a bit in overexposing or err a bit on underexposing? I often use an incident light meter, which, in my experience, recommends a bit more exposure than a reflected reading from the camera location. I will be visiting Greece in August, with its brilliant Mediterranean sun and hard summer light. Thanks!. The consensus among serious practitioners is to stick with box speed of 100 when shooting Ektar. But the blue curve of Ektar shoulders off before the green or red, so overexposed highlights end up contaminated with cyan. There are issues in deep shadows too. Just changing the overall balance in PS won't correct this. It's far easier to correct at the actual time of the shot.
Drew, there is a lot of good information in this thread, but I am getting a bit lost. For Ektar 100 in 35mm cameras: expose at EI=100, correct? If in doubt, err a bit in overexposing or err a bit on underexposing? I often use an incident light meter, which, in my experience, recommends a bit more exposure than a reflected reading from the camera location. I will be visiting Greece in August, with its brilliant Mediterranean sun and hard summer light. Thanks!
It's really quite amazing. [macfred's photolab link] Though I would like to see the results with darkroom prints and with other scanners. Sometimes I wonder if the magic of overexposure is in the film or...
Bill, this sounds remarkably like the tests that we ran on our films before they were released to the customer. We made sure that they worked, and did so under a wide variety of conditions. And, we used several of our own products and competitor products for comparison.
Hi Mr Bill. I'll try to do your long thread due justice later, so just a couple minor clarifications first. I'm not really a portrait photographer. I did sometimes get portrait commissions from collectors of my prints,...
Film stock and exposure comparison - Fuji 400H, Portra 160, Portra 400 & Portra 800 http://canadianfilmlab.com/2014/04/24/film-stock-and-exposure-comparisons-kodak-portra-and-fuji/
It's hard to go wrong with modern film stock.
That's a myth. Easy to correct. Ha! I've seen a lot of those so-called corrections. It's not just the highlights that get contaminated. I've talked to a couple of digi printing gurus who went nuts slithering and dithering for days on end to try to get the colors back in shape. It's just so much easier to do right at the time of exposure itself.
What if they wrote the scanning software to begin with, and are the primary consultant for the inkjet company? That kinda changes the equation. When they call a project hell, and I'm looking at the result with my own eyes (not over the web), I believe it. They were well recognized darkroom printers before that, so understand the pros and cons. Over the hill somewhat now. So now maybe some new fixes have come around, that is, this side of Hollywood budgets. Admittedly, I have no interest in inkjet printing myself; but I do understand color theory better than most and am extremely skeptical that just anything can be fixed in PS. Dithering isn't a fix, but painting back in what one thinks it's supposed to be. I've seen examples of your style of control and it seems to make sense, but certainly not with Ektar more than half a stop over. But it's the poor reproduction of blacks in color inkjet that is one of the things that turns me off about it - uneven sheens from dual or multiple black inks. Then there's the opacity issue inherent with ink. Slightly off topic. There's nothing that can be done in PS that can't be done masking or making corrected color separation negs - not as conveniently perhaps; but it's all been done before - even better in terms of hue accuracy. The inks aren't ideal, or you wouldn't need more than four of them (CMYK). They're a complex compromise engineered with particles composed of pigments, dyes, and lakes small enough to get through tiny inkjet nozzles, adapted to four axis color analytic geometry mapping programs. How that's translated into software is someone else's job. I personally worked with predecessor technology, and had top level mfg contacts for several decades and developed an acute color eye. "Contacts" is an understatement. Quite similar except for particle size (industrial colorants); that's where it was all pioneered. Similar problems right down to how to keep the pigments from drying out. That aspect - the visual endpoint - doesn't change. But it would be fun to see some of your prints some day; it certainly sounds like you know what you are doing. I have to problem admiring other photographic media if well done. But I have my own groove.
That's a myth. Easy to correct. Ha! I've seen a lot of those so-called corrections. It's not just the highlights that get contaminated. I've talked to a couple of digi printing gurus who went nuts slithering and dithering for days on end to try to get the colors back in shape. It's just so much easier to do right at the time of exposure itself.
this matches my experience;it also seems to me that color negative film shows more separation in the highlights,where B&W film easily blocks up.Virtually all color film performs best when exposed as indicated by the manufacturer. Most color neg film won't bite you if you overexpose it by one or two stops.
Well, thank you Adrian. I see you've researched quite a variety of films, and that's certainly a feather in your cap by being able to offer clients a significant selection of looks. I feel black and white portraiture is currently under-represented in portraiture at the moment, but that's a slightly different subject. Lots of the techie crowd seems to like black and white imagery.
Glad to see you and your family are getting good use of that film Adrian.
Now if only you could figure out how to get something in colour out of the extra bonus roll I sent you, you could really start something here on Photrio.
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