I was on there the other day - yeah. They are having an experience that borders on the illicit. And frankly, I didn't notice much different than from any old D&*()^&*)L camera that cost only a fraction of the price ... :confused:
The RFF is too busy having a huge circle jerk over the M8 at the moment to answer sensibly any question about *whisper* a film Leica...:rolleyes:
I was on there the other day - yeah. They are having an experience that borders on the illicit. And frankly, I didn't notice much different than from any old D&*()^&*)L camera that cost only a fraction of the price ... :confused:
I had the chance to handle the M8 camera for a short time at Photo Plus on Saturday. I did not see any results. But, it is solid, remarkably well balanced, feels and handles (except the back) like any M camera and takes the Leica M glass (with the problem of a chip that results in a multiplier of about 1.3X). If you have the lenses already and want to shoot digital it is a viable option. That is in some ways like the Leica Module R which replaces the back and allows the Leica R8 and R9 to also shoot digital with all the Leica R lenses.
I would say at $4k+ per body, you really have to want to use that glass. One could get quite a D(&*)^&(*L setup for that kind of scratch and have a lot left over.
For me, I'd get a good film scanner before a D^&*(^&(*L body and use the rest for film and lenses and probably could beat the pants off of any pure D^&%^*(&L setup.
I had the chance to handle the M8 camera for a short time at Photo Plus on Saturday. I did not see any results. But, it is solid, remarkably well balanced, feels and handles (except the back) like any M camera and takes the Leica M glass (with the problem of a chip that results in a multiplier of about 1.3X). If you have the lenses already and want to shoot digital it is a viable option. That is in some ways like the Leica Module R which replaces the back and allows the Leica R8 and R9 to also shoot digital with all the Leica R lenses.
Rich
Suppose I have a "limited" but reasonably generous budget. Given your observation, would it make more sense to spend the bulk of my cash on Leitz lenses and buy a modest body like a Cosina/Bessa R2A (or similar)?
I'm a snob too. I look down on people who wear second-class watches and flaunt their other possessions.I'm a snob. I have worked hard for a long time and now I am enjoying the rewards of my labors. I like the best. I shoot leica and Hasselblad, wear a Rolex and drive a Porsche. Life is too short to settle for second best.
If you develop the attitude of demanding the best in life you will find it in all areas of your life. Relationships, family, work, where you live, what you drive, what you own Etc...
Leicas are great cameras but some of us own them because we wont settle for less.
Um, er, ah, this is not an original observation. And it is strongly disputed by Leicaists who insist that what the photographer feels (in his/her/its hands, not between his/her/its ears) when taking the picture is at least as important as the final print. You are, from their point of view, focused on the wrong thing. The destination isn't important, the journey is.Sean,
You bring up an interesting point.
Suppose I have a "limited" but reasonably generous budget. Given your observation, would it make more sense to spend the bulk of my cash on Leitz lenses and buy a modest body like a Cosina/Bessa R2A (or similar)?
The lens "makes" the picture - not the body.
Food for thought.....
[...] Leicaists [...]
who insist that what the photographer feels (in his/her/its hands, not between his/her/its ears) when taking the picture is at least as important as the final print. You are, from their point of view, focused on the wrong thing. The destination isn't important, the journey is.
I've been collecting Leicaists' replies to negative comments about the latest all-singing all-dancing all-digital Leica's reported problems. For the record, I don't have one and have no idea whether the people who have used the thing and report problems are chronic whiners, hopelessly confused, or lying. I don't care much, either, but the loyalists' replies are fascinating:
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I had the chance to handle the M8 camera for a short time at Photo Plus on Saturday. I did not see any results. But, it is solid, remarkably well balanced, feels and handles (except the back) like any M camera and takes the Leica M glass (with the problem of a chip that results in a multiplier of about 1.3X). If you have the lenses already and want to shoot digital it is a viable option. That is in some ways like the Leica Module R which replaces the back and allows the Leica R8 and R9 to also shoot digital with all the Leica R lenses.
Rich
Rich
Rich,
I don't know much about what's going on with the M8 - but all the talk on RFF is of either cancelling orders or returning them and demanding a refund.
Some kind of major technical flaw I presume. And this on a mega-buck camera that was "touted" for over a year before being released.
Why is a Ferrari so expensive? Why are Louis Vuitton bags so expensive? etc... I think the questions has been asked an answered many times. Someone wrote if you have to ask, you can't afford it!With Leica rangefinders? At or around $1000! I am a novice by all means (35mm SLR only) and am looking at trying out other cameras/formats. I apologize for the navitiy of my question. But what gives?
One of these things is not like the other...Why is a Ferrari so expensive? Why are Louis Vuitton bags so expensive?
Could they have produced a $2500 body? I don't know. Maybe. I bet Zeiss Ikon and Cosina-Voigtlander will be able to produce one.
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