What type of darkroom prints becomes most collectible/ valuable?

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I'd say the question cannot be accurately answered today.

In the future it will be. But not today.
 

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The only slightly sarcastic answer is "be dead." I was at the AIPAD show last week (probably the largest dealer show in the U.S.), and certainly the most expensive prints were those made by the dead photographer close to the date the negative was exposed. If you happen to still be alive, a history of museum exhibits or major art gallery exhibits is the next best thing. The truth is that being either dead or famous is what brings the big bucks. Lesser known photographers simply don't command much in the way of print prices.

The actual technique is much less important. If you are making darkroom prints (after all, this is APUG), archival processing on fiber based paper is the way to go; I don't know if any dealers sell prints on RC paper (I'm referring to B&W.) The truth is that most current photographers tend to make digital prints ("archival pigment" to dealers, inkjet to you and me), and print large. Even Ian Ruhter, known for his huge wet-plate photographs, scanned his positives and had inkjet prints for sale. In general, print prices were somewhat proportional to size (gee, size matters!) which made the distinction between contact prints and enlargements moot, the enlargements sell for more (unless we are talking about an 8x10 contact print made by Edward Weston, who not surprisingly didn't own an enlarger).
 

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Is ordinary multicontrast paper a disadvantage? Is reprint from larger formats like 4x5 or 8x10 usually more sought after?
It seems like many collectors like contact prints from 8x10? over work from enlargers?
If the photographer has made the print him self, will it increase value?

http://artdaily.com/news/23810/Edwa...ting-a-New-Record-For-The-Artist#.VTlgnJOlRaQ

anything by Ansel Adams, Ed Weston, etc. Seriously, I saw prints by Weston in a museum's storage room that had fixer stains ... so quality counts, but not as much as the name if it is collectibility you are arter.

Value for art? Archival Quality? Nothing beats fiber base.
 

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For living photographers, the type made by photographers who have ingratiated themselves into the gallery and art collectors world.
 

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A mediocre print by a famous photographer tends to be worth a lot more than a great print by an unknown photographer. It does help to be dead. Otherwise, nobody seems to care about what paper you used, or what size it was. It might matter later on, since some materials have a better track record than others in terms of "archival" characteristics. Just do what you enjoy. Your odds at making a real profit on prints is
about the same as winning the Lottery.
 
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At least i am sure that printer copies will not be collectible.

I remember i was at large photo store where a photographer spoke about his work. This was also a HP printer demo Then later on he made several prints from a new HP large format printer many from the same picture. Sold a few and brought the copies with him to a gallery where he would sell the rest of them. He also told me that buying one would be an investment.

I don't think any of those ever will be collectible. How many will the photographer print? What in the future, will he make another 20 copies from a then even better Large format printer? I think it's to easy, i also think that the buyer need to know that there are few "original" copies and that there want be made more (i guess destroying the negative would help).
 

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the ones with endearing images embedded in them.

I wish there was a good correlation between artistically endearing images and 'collectability' or 'value'.

After all, most artistically appreciative people aren't accountants or managers, yet it is those groups who are most likely to be in the position to have spare cash to push up the value of work. If the OP can find stuff that is enjoyed by accountants and management, then they'll have cracked it.

Edit: Yes - then die, in order to limit availability. Alternatively, announce controversially, and very publically, that photography is now dead to you and you'll never make another print.
 
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In the soup

Since the Soup Can Dude could make high priced art from Polaroid prints, it does not seem that the media makes much of a difference. It does not pay to take the higher prices too seriously, many times there's a ton of hype and only an ounce of talent. Although some of the big priced works are fine. The problem is to figure out which are which.
 

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That's it. I'm through. See that avatar over there on the left? That is a one of a kind print, only printed once and never to be printed again. The "image" was "captured" onto film. It's on extra-special "minimalist" jewel-like 5x7 resin coated variable contrast paper, hand-crafted silver gelatin printed by the artist's hand under an antique enlarger using real light. Now let the bidding begin....
 

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Those who can tell a story with their photography are worth collecting..
 

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Pretty much anything made by a historically significant photographer.
 

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Pretty much anything made by a historically significant photographer

That´s it. Most people would recommend printing on FB and creating only a limited series of prints from the same negative, maybe 5-10, 20 at most. On the other hand, Helmut Newton sold hand signed offset prints(!) from his work at the end of his career. Seriously, most daily newspapers today offer a higher image quality! It all depends on your degree of fame...
 

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I always think of this in terms of what I would buy. My most treasured "art" are pieces my friends have done. Some have been free, others I paid more than the asking price.

Being in Dallas, we have a decent art market and my wife and I hit the "gallery crawls" from time to time. We see plenty of crap, and plenty of stuff we'd love to buy. (I always say "We need to bring $20k next time!!" and she rolls her eyes…) So I'm motivated by seeing something that stops me in my tracks - not something that will establish my bondafides as a preening douchebag rich dude, or whatever that kind of buyer is.

That said, I'd spend a couple months mortgage to have an original Jan Saudek, if I could find one of my favorites. And had a couple extra grand just lying around, but I still have kids in college. They turn up for $2k-$3k for smaller sizes… someday I'll own one - probably my main inspiration to return to the darkroom after a decade.

That said, as far as specific processes or emulsions, it's my understanding that platinum is most desirable to gallery owners (or buyers??)

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I always think of this in terms of what I would buy. My most treasured "art" are pieces my friends have done. Some have been free, others I paid more than the asking price.

Being in Dallas, we have a decent art market and my wife and I hit the "gallery crawls" from time to time. We see plenty of crap, and plenty of stuff we'd love to buy. (I always say "We need to bring $20k next time!!" and she rolls her eyes…) So I'm motivated by seeing something that stops me in my tracks - not something that will establish my bondafides as a preening douchebag rich dude, or whatever that kind of buyer is.

That said, I'd spend a couple months mortgage to have an original Jan Saudek, if I could find one of my favorites. And had a couple extra grand just lying around, but I still have kids in college. They turn up for $2k-$3k for smaller sizes… someday I'll own one - probably my main inspiration to return to the darkroom after a decade.

That said, as far as specific processes or emulsions, it's my understanding that platinum is most desirable to gallery owners (or buyers??)

Saudek:

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