What to do with 16mm negatives?

[Kirks518]

I have a couple of Stekys, but I have no idea what to do with the negatives once I develop them. No place I can find handle 16mm negs, but I don't even know if I'll want them printed. I don't know of a scanner that can handle 16mm either. So, what do you guys that shoot submins do? Ideally, I'd like to get them in digital format so I can see if they are worthwhile printing, and then take it from there. Any ideas?

 

[cliveh]

Well if you go further down the line, I sometimes use an 8mm cine camera and after processing through a lab in Canada, have cut strips out of the positives and projected them through an enlarger onto ortho film as a negative and then used that neg as a basis for a straight print or an alternative process. The possibilities are endless.

 

[David Lyga]

Kirks518: Did you evey think of taking a digital camera and using the macro mode, (tripod mounted, of course) and then see how sharp they are?

Also, so what if they are 16mm: Place some in your enlarger (if you have one) and, using black construction paper as a mask, see how sharp they are.

Finally, if you have neither, get a high power magnifying glass and look closely. - David Lyga

 

[Xmas]

Enlarge, scan, project all the serious submins came with assorted kit.

Lomo do a 110 flat bed neg holder

 

[trythis]

flat bed scan with manual framing.

 

[AgX]

A printing lab, most probably including industrial finishers, that handles type 110 film, may cope with your negatives.

It depends how their scanner work. And most likely you'll get a RA-4 print.

 

[bsdunek]

Assuming you're in the U.S., https://thedarkroom.com/film-developing/110-126-and-advantix-aps-film-developing/
I think you can have The Darkroom just scan and print. I would contact them.
Otherwise, you have a few options. 1. Print yourself. I use a Durst 606 with a 50mm lens and can got to 5X7. 2. As said above, scan yourself. You can crop in Photoshop. 3. Trash - I would consider that a terrible waste.
I use both Minox and 110 cameras for non-important work and enjoy them. I do have some 11X14 prints from 110 (color) that I sell. Amazing what little cameras can do if you hold them still.

 

[summicron1]

Blue Moon, an APUG sponsor, understands 16mm. click on their link on the home page.

 

[Kirks518]

Blue Moon, an APUG sponsor, understands 16mm. click on their link on the home page.

When I try and go to their site, I get this:

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[MattKing]

When I try and go to their site, I get this:

Try this(from the APUG advertisers sub-forum): http://www.bluemooncamera.com/

 

[Kirks518]

That link worked. From what I can gather, they charge $3 per frame for other than 35mm. I think I'll make a mask for my scanner carrier, and see how that goes.

 

[nworth]

The limit for a 16mm negative is usually about a 5X7 print viewed at arms length. Rarely, you can get an acceptable 8X10. If you have an enlarger, you can either get a 16mm negative holder (if you can find one) or make a mask for your film for use with a 35mm negative holder. It works (sort of) - I've done it. If you scan, you need almost 4000 pixels per inch for a 5X7 (assuming 2100 pixels for the 7 inch dimension and a 10X14 mm negative). The practical limit for a very good flat bed scanner is about 2000, despite what the advertisements say. And that assumes the negative is flat. You will get some degradation of the image, which is almost certainly of limited quality anyway. If you have a scanner that allows liquid immersion scanning or a 4000 ppi strip scanner that you can adapt to 16mm film, you can do a bit better and may be able to get everything the negative is capable of.

 

[MartinP]

They are relatively easy to print with a normal double-glass neg carrier. Just tape a piece of black paper on the 'outside' of the holder as a mask, while keeping the neg in the centre of the larger frame. I have done this with old 110 negs which are a similar size. I even found a 28mm enlarging lens to try, but the quality was not so good and I had better results with a 50mm Componon-S. The main limits are the quality of many (not all) sub-format camera lenses together with the magnification factor needed for prints. It isn't necessary to find a (rare) Minox enlarger to produce prints.

 

[Brac]

There is a firm in the US who sell a wide range of film holders for some Epson, Canon and other scanners. They are not cheap but what they offer may be of help.

The site is at http://www.filmscanusa.net

I obtained from them a suitable 127 negative holder for my Epson V 500 scanner. As an example of what they can supply, here is their list for that particular model:

Epson Perfection Scanner models: v500, 4490, 4990, 3170, 3200, 3870, 4180, 4870

Available Film Sizes:

110 (16mm) Pocket Instamatic.
126 full frame (Instamatic), (28x28mm square frame)
APS (24mm) (IX240) (Kodak Advantix)
MINOX (9.4mm) (Sub-Mini)
16mm Movie / Microfilm
17.5mm Hit ( Mini )
8mm Movie
35mm Standard (Full Frame)
35mm Half Frame
35mm Xpan (two frame panoramic)
35mm Widlux (three frame panoramic)
35mm Lomography (capture sprocket holes)
127 (45-46mm)
120 (60mm)
70mm
Kodak Disc (15 frame round disc negative)
Custom Size (email if size you need is not on list)