What to do if you can't get C41 starters?

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For developer and bleach.

I'm not aiming to run replenished so running a few films wouldn't work.
 

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For developer and bleach.

I'm not aiming to run replenished so running a few films wouldn't work.
With determination and determination, you can prepare advanced and bleached chemistry from scratch.
Do you have any of the elements for photochemistry in your country?
If you are really serious, I will help and give you a summary of my experience, which lasted for a whole year, until I reached the easiest way, the easiest method, the best results, and the cheapest formula at the same time.
- I do not want to present my experience here so that we do not enter into long discussions and cross-cutting scientific differences, and all of this will make us move away from the main objective of the topic.
- The summary of my experience stating that you can prepare photochemistry based on the chemical raw materials available in your country.
Some countries, including my country, have some chemical elements, and many of the elements are:
1- It is forbidden to sell it for security reasons.
2- Very, very, very expensive
3 - Never available, and must be imported from abroad.
And based on all of the above, we will have to resort to alternative recipes, alternative ingredients, etc.
- If you are serious, talk to me about the private conversation.
 
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I have access to commercially made replenishers Mohmad. It is just the starters that no one seems to be selling at the moment :smile:
 

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I use Kodak Flexicolor chemistry, the starters should be available if you can get the chemistry. You are correct that running films is not a good way to go. The prepared developer concentrate requires 30 ml of starter and additional water to make up 1 liter of working "tank" solution.

I think these starters adjust pH as much as halide levels. I just ordered a gallon bottle of Fuji E6 color developer starter, 85 USD, that's probably enough to last me for the next 77 years :sad:.

You might try contacting Unique Photo, New Jersey USA. The Kodak starters are inexpensive, come in 1.2 liter bottles. B&H sells to Brazilian customers, they might be able to help.
 

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I have access to commercially made replenishers Mohmad. It is just the starters that no one seems to be selling at the moment :smile:
I did not understand well .
What exactly do you want?
Because of the current crisis, you are afraid that you may not be able to obtain the photochemistry you want in the future?
Maybe I am afraid that this crisis will extend for a long time, for example?
I didn't really understand,
You what do you want ..?
If you had raw chemicals (like me), you would definitely not worry about anything.
You will have the ability to prepare that fresh photochemistry from scratch daily if you like.
The Egyptian president who was killed said:
We must rely on ourselves on three things:
We must produce our food, our medicine, and our weapon.
After he said that he got killed.
 

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I have access to commercially made replenishers Mohmad. It is just the starters that no one seems to be selling at the moment :smile:

What brand and type of commercial rep do you use?
Is it like the minilab processor cartridges?
 
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It is a local distributor. Not kodak or Fuji. I guess they are probably getting their reagents from the same people as everyone else though.

It is rapid access chemistry sold in 10L kits for 500 films.
 

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If you are not running a replenished film line you do not need developer or blix starter solutions, starters are intended to pre-season your solutions. You could try using water at the same volume as the starter your developer will be a little "hot" with this approach, or just save a bit of used once developer from each run to add to the next diluted batch of developer. MSDS for C-41 Flexicolor starter. https://www.freestylephoto.biz/pdf/msds/kodak/Flexicolor_Developer_Starter_1_Qt..pdf
 

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Perhaps I can help you - if the air flight is restarted, maybe I can send some chemical raw materials through any Brazilian tourist visiting Cairo and was unable to return due to the closure of the airports, through the H-Hacker service.
Or with any Brazilian person whoever, even if he is the Brazilian ambassador himself.
 
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