What is going on with 35mm

Sirius Glass · Aug 26, 2022

jtk said:
Red pepper has taken longer to get that way....green is less ripe.

There is nobody with skills who wants to live anywhere near Rochester. Unless somebody loves bangers and mash they wouldn't move to GB either. California is crowded because people want to live there and if they leave they won't like living anywhere else.

When I worked for Kodak I wanted to open a Kodak Aerospace Systems Engineering Office in the Los Angeles area. The head of Systems Engineer approved my plans and to go ahead with setting up the new business office. Suddenly from the Vice President's level it got blocked with no explanation. A few months later it came out that my division was to be sold to another company and that top management stopped my efforts so that they would get their bonuses for the sale going through. That division used the least company use of funds of all the divisions and had the highest ROI of all the rest of the company. I realized that the future of my division was not good and that I could do better by getting hired by the strongest competitor.

AgX · Aug 27, 2022

jtk said:
There is nobody with skills who wants to live anywhere near Rochester. Unless somebody loves bangers and mash they wouldn't move to GB either. California is crowded because people want to live there and if they leave they won't like living anywhere else.

Then let's move Kodak.

henryvk · Aug 27, 2022

Paul Howell said:
Once the GenX, GenY and other hipster (sorry if I am not current on current tags) get tired and move on or if Fuji ramps up production, of if Ferraina gets it's act together and starts production of any color film, prices will drop. I can live without color film, I shoot 90% black and white, if monochrome film doubles up I will shoot less. Currently I shoot around 3 to 6 rolls a week, I could make do with 2 or 3 rolls, 6 sheets of 4X5 an outing.

If they could run the production lines on angry boomer rants the shortage would be over tomorrow.

pentaxuser · Aug 27, 2022

MattKing said:
They are looking for younger, more recently educated people who might be willing to train to become appropriate replacements for a highly experienced workforce with very specialized knowledge but too few years before retirement.

Well one swallow does not a summer make as the saying goes but in recent months articles on IlfordPhoto indicate that it has managed to recruit younger well qualified people

I wonder what success Kodak has had? Is this and exactly what steps Kodak has taken to improve the supply of C41 film actually stated anywhere?

Thanks

pentaxuser

pentaxuser · Aug 27, 2022

jtk said:
There is nobody with skills who wants to live anywhere near Rochester. Unless somebody loves bangers and mash they wouldn't move to GB either. California is crowded because people want to live there and if they leave they won't like living anywhere else.

Gor blimey guv,now hoo would dent like bangers and mash, jellied eels wogg-a-ling abaht like wonky wheels , wearing flat caps at strange angles and doing all these things that we British love the whole length of the British Isles

We welcome any yanks except Dick van Dyke. He's had years to learn our Cockernee language but is no better now than he was in Mary Poppins so there's a limit to our tolerance

I must confess I hadn't noticed your great sense of humour properly until now

pentaxuser

Don_ih · Aug 27, 2022

Paul Howell said:
Once the GenX, GenY and other hipster (sorry if I am not current on current tags) get tired and move on or if Fuji ramps up production, of if Ferraina gets it's act together and starts production of any color film, prices will drop. I can live without color film, I shoot 90% black and white, if monochrome film doubles up I will shoot less. Currently I shoot around 3 to 6 rolls a week, I could make do with 2 or 3 rolls, 6 sheets of 4X5 an outing.

When GenX - now past middle age, by the way -, GenY, and hipsters get tired and move on, film will be done - including b&w.

jtk · Aug 27, 2022

fwiw I think Kodak is going to build a new business out of their existing digital printing capability...digital prints on Kodak photo paper (not inkjet) from whatever digital source, whether scans or camera imagery...higher detail resolution, more intense dots (or whatever), and genuinely archival. We've seen those prints as murals for a couple of years in galleries.

Perhaps Rochester will continue to manufacture those prints from Rochester... that doesn't begin to suggest that they'll sell paper to hobbiests.

Paul Howell · Aug 27, 2022

Don Heisz said:
When GenX - now past middle age, by the way -, GenY, and hipsters get tired and move on, film will be done - including b&w.

Your right, as my generation is getting older and older and will pass to the great darkroom in the sky, I hope that younger photographers keep the art alive and well.

jtk · Aug 27, 2022

Darkrooms consume real estate, even when it's a closet, and are therefore doomed. Waving of hands around for dodging and burning is alreadly easily replaced by tablets. Canon will prosper because people actually do want to control their prints....maybe Epson will discover the idea of "reliability." For now, Canon is the future...we'll print to our taste, then send the "finished" file and reference print to Kodak, wherever it resides in order to get the one kind of print that's better than today's inkjet.

Sal Santamaura · Aug 27, 2022

AgX said:
Then let's move Kodak.

In case that wasn't a joke, i.e. you don't already know, look up some of Ron Mowery's PHOTRIO posts on that subject to see how the very idea of moving Bldg. 38's coating line is financially absurd.

Sirius Glass · Aug 27, 2022

AgX said:
Then let's move Kodak.

Kodak was founded in Rochester because it is the world's largest natural darkroom. That is why Kodak cannot be moved.

spark · Aug 27, 2022

Kodak move a line? Scratch your grey cells and remember the angry mob that arose when they did something like that and the characteristics of Plus-X and Tri-X shifted slightly.
Also, Kodak was a fine example of how a multimillion dollar technology corporation can be turned into $25 in hard cash with the right mismanagement. I am speaking as a former stockholder. Wishing Fuji a better outcome.

Huss · Aug 27, 2022

pentaxuser said:
Gor blimey guv,now hoo would dent like bangers and mash, jellied eels wogg-a-ling abaht like wonky wheels , wearing flat caps at strange angles and doing all these things that we British love the whole length of the British Isles

We welcome any yanks except Dick van Dyke. He's had years to learn our Cockernee language but is no better now than he was in Mary Poppins so there's a limit to our tolerance

I must confess I hadn't noticed your great sense of humour properly until now

pentaxuser

Nothing is as lovely as the British countryside in summer, hanging outside a pub sipping a drink with your friends on those long summer days.

Lee Rust · Aug 27, 2022

jtk said:
There is nobody with skills who wants to live anywhere near Rochester. Unless somebody loves bangers and mash they wouldn't move to GB either. California is crowded because people want to live there and if they leave they won't like living anywhere else.

Rochester's actually a pretty nice place to live. No wildfires, earthquakes, tornadoes, hurricanes. Moderate temps. Rain & snowfall are rarely extreme. Plenty of things to do and varied geography. Anyway, Kodak's already here.

MattKing · Aug 27, 2022

The George Eastman Museum is certainly a place I'd like to spend time at ....
And it could be worse, it could be Buffalo .
(with a sort of nod to Peter Mahovlich)

faberryman · Aug 27, 2022

The Eastman House workshops are still online only. I wonder if they will ever go back to being in person.

jtk · Aug 27, 2022

Lee Rust said:
Rochester's actually a pretty nice place to live. No wildfires, earthquakes, tornadoes, hurricanes. Moderate temps. Rain & snowfall are rarely extreme. Plenty of things to do and varied geography. Anyway, Kodak's already here.

"nice" is eye of beholder. Add lack of young people and plentitude of golfers and nursing homes to its characteristics.

jtk · Aug 27, 2022

Huss said:
Nothing is as lovely as the British countryside in summer, hanging outside a pub sipping a drink with your friends on those long summer days.

Warm beer, impending end of civilization.

jtk · Aug 27, 2022

Sal Santamaura said:
In case that wasn't a joke, i.e. you don't already know, look up some of Ron Mowery's PHOTRIO posts on that subject to see how the very idea of moving Bldg. 38's coating line is financially absurd.

Link em' if you've got em'.

faberryman · Aug 27, 2022

Kodak Color Plus 200 in 35mm is in stock at B&H for $16.99/roll.

https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/1476366-REG/kodak_603147_color_print_film_200_36.html

Sal Santamaura · Aug 27, 2022

jtk said:
Link em' if you've got em'.

I've been on forums long enough to demur when asked to do others' work for them.

jtk · Aug 27, 2022

Sal Santamaura said:
I've been on forums long enough to demur when asked to do others' work for them.

In this case I think you're inspiring doubt and, hopefully not misrepresenting RM.

pentaxuser · Aug 27, 2022

jtk said:
Warm beer, impending end of civilization.

Both are linked of course as I think you hint at strongly

pentaxuser

grat · Aug 27, 2022

AgX said:
Then let's move Kodak.

*snicker*snort*guffaw*

That's funny. That's really funny.

I'm guessing you didn't watch the recent tour of the Kodak film emulsion factory. That plant only exists because of a truly massive investment made by Kodak in the late 1990's when film was still a Big Deal. Moving just the drying assembly would be ridiculous.

I understand they're trying to reinvent the area as a tech hub-- if that's successful, it would benefit everyone.

Sirius Glass · Aug 27, 2022

Lee Rust said:
Rochester's actually a pretty nice place to live. No wildfires, earthquakes, tornadoes, hurricanes. Moderate temps. Rain & snowfall are rarely extreme. Plenty of things to do and varied geography. Anyway, Kodak's already here.

If you do not mind seeing buildings with bricked up windows that purposely done to not match the building and the cement oozing out from the bricks. Pure rust belt at its best.

Number one things to see in Rochester is several cemeteries.

On the other hand the Lilac Festival and the Corncob Festival are very enjoyable.

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